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Talking 1936 VRC Derby winner

Talkingracehorse Talking was foaled in 1933 and was by Magpie out of the mare Society (by Absurd)

Main wins:

1936 Warwick Stakes

1936 AJC Derby

1936 VRC Derby

1937 Hill Stakes

1937 Craven Plate






Magpie Dark Ronald Bay Ronald Hampton
Black Duchess
Darkie Thurio
Popinjay St Frusquin St Simon
Chelandry Goldfinch
Society Absurd Sundridge Amphion
Absurdity Melton
First Class All Black Gallinule
Class Wallace
La Tosca











The Burnie Advocate, on November 2, 1936, reported the 1936 Victoria Derby race as follows:

Bought recently for £19,000, Talking returned £3,500 of his cost to Mr. Alan Cooper by winning the Victoria Derby in brilliant style yesterday. Talking, who also won the A.J.C. Derby at Randwick, is the outstanding staying colt of the season.

Talking is the first of the Magpies to win the Victoria Derby. He really outclassed his rivals with, the exception of Mala for whom excuse can be made as his preparation in the last week was interrupted by soreness.

Talking was a hot favourite, with Prince Quex a solid second choice and Mala eased.

In the preliminary betting 2 to 1 was freely offered about Talking, and some backers secured 9 to 4. However, when betting began in earnest he firmed to 6 to 4.

There were three wagers of £700 to £400, another of £600 to £400, and £300 to £200 was booked on several occasions.

Beechwood dashed to the front at the start but Prince Quex was slow to get going. Beechwood soon opened up a good lead from Great Feast, Talking and Shakespeare, Prince Quex and Arbalest were the last two. Beechwood was out about eight lengths from Talking at the six furlongs post but as the field approached the home turn Talking began to draw in the leader.

Beechwood was four lengths clear entering the straight, but Talking soon drew past him, and won easily. Talking went a little wide rounding the home turn and in the straight he shifted out a little.

Mala, who was one of the last three for nearly a mile, came home strongly and caught Beechwood nearing the post to beat him by a head for second place. Beechwood hung on gamely when caught and showed better stamina than expected.

Talking's rider, A. Knox, who had won the Victoria Derby before, said after the race that his mount was always going well and was not worried by the lead Beechwood gained.