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F.A.Q........WHY DON'T YOU PUT UP AS MUCH FEEDBACK AS YOU USED TO DO? Mainly because this page is getting way too large and unwieldy to load and manipulate with 5 or 6 years feedback already on it and it gets a bit repetitive when people just send congratulations and thanks all the time...............we do appreciate the kind comments but from here on in we'll only post the odd one or two............peter / December 2010

From Greg 31.01.12 (Multi-Meth) ........I’m having a lot of fun with MultiMeth so far, Sat was very good, keep up the good work!

From Wayne 26.01.12 (Whole Box & Dice).........very interesting product.....really enjoy the practical and common sense approach you have taken and some of the systems are very interesting to say the least

From Barry 22.01.12 (The Grail)........without doubt the most intriguing approach to winning I've seen but I must say the staking plan that you sent with it makes it "pure gold"

From Carter 10.01.12 (OutRater) .....great afternoon today with 3 wins and a second from just four selections......Reece at $22 made my day
(Ed: Yes it was a very pleasant afternoon wasn't it? What a pity it doesn't simply do that every day ...ah well, we live in hope :-) )

From Liong 06.01.12.........I've been a regular reader on your website. it gives me so much information about betting or should I say, investing, on horses. I've been trying to make money on horses and always failed because I'm one of those people who gets desperate and panics if I don't win and start putting all my money on favorite without doing any homework about the horse. You talk about this on your current articles "observation favorite". So thank you for sharing your knowledge to us smaller punter trying to have an extra money and keep up the good work.

From Ari (OutRater) 30.12.11...........I am enjoying the outrater system..................learning the art of discipline and sticking to the rules..... after 180 win bets, my profit on turnover is about 10% which is lower than what you achieved b/n April and July in 2011 (22.85%)......the only real variable in the system is the class rule. Did you use a specific rule in your approach. At the moment, I will exclude a selection if the prize money in its previous race was less than 40% of the current race.
(Ed: Glad you are in front on OutRater - the actual % will vary all the time of course but as you are undoubtedly coming to appreciate it is the overall LONG TERM result that counts. Interesting to read in The Australian lately that Australia's biggest punter aims for an annual 1% profit on turnover. As to class, I am coming to the position lately that if the prize money for the horse's race today is DOUBLE or more compared what it ran in last start, I just about discard automatically UNLESS it has run (and successfully) at today's level in the past so I guess we are on the same tram - just looking at it in a slightly different manner.)

From Craig (WB&D) 23.12.11.........arrrived this morning.....very impressive....so thrilled to find that "bonus software you can't mention" included with the package. I always used to wonder what that was like....it will be interesting to see if it still has application some 20 years on.....merry xmas

From Barry (WB&D)...23.12.11..........Many thanks the Cd came this morning......WOW, what a collection of systems.......willl need all holidays to go through them
(Ed: You must be a speed reader....it took me years!!!! :-)....Australia Post are quite good aren't they even at this time of the year - well done to the posties)

From Warwick ... (WB&D)....22.12.11..........Many thanks for the extra systems.......I'm thoroughly enjoying the contents of The Whole Box and Dice as well as your daily ratings..........

From Bill...20.12.11.......I always get something out of your systems, even if it sends my thinking on a different tangent.
(Ed: That's terrific and the whole object of the exercise. Because of the nature of the thing, it is all but impossible to come out in front if you follow the "herd" reasoning and betting patterns without showing enormously more discipline than the "herd" norm. Lemmings don't make good gamblers!)

From Gerald.....19.12.11......Just like to say a big thank you for the recent methods that you posted. Love all your methods and am a big fan of your work. Hope you have safe and happy xmas.

From Graham (Whole Box & Dice) 16.12.11....... Received The whole box and dice monday, but my house has been in turmoil this week and now is the first opportunity i've had to let you know and take a look at it. So much to go through! Apart from that I'd just like to say I spent a large part of last weekend poring over the site and was amazed at the wealth of good free information, wonderful stories and sound punting advice available to anyone prepared to take the time too peruse it all. All I can say is it's a great site and if someone can't gain anything by reading through it then they should keep their hands in their pockets or give it all to the missus. Seasons greetings

From Brandon (Daily Ratings) 15.12.11........Freak! That's the one word that describes you......a $62 top rater!!!  Wow 2/3 ain't bad at all! I had only 5 units on each of the top raters but thanks so much!
(Ed: Umm, here's the bad news. It probably won't happen again today or for some time :-))

From Paul Whole Box & Dice) 07.12.11......The Whole Box and Dice arrived in the mail last night. I read it for about 4 hours and I think your product is under priced compared to a lot on the market

From Rex (Bet Selector) 04.12.11......Thanks for the review of Bet selector. ........I realise that you haven't mucked around with it too much. I have a pretty good collection of Racerate's systems which I like very much, so my question is, can I use your systems with this programme? I love your website, makes me late for work most days and keeps me from doing things that I'm suppose to be doing. Just joking, but I do have a squizz most days I seem to always learn a little more about punting that I did yesterday. Have a great festive season.
(Ed: Thanks for the kind words. Some Racerate methods can be used with BS but most can't because of the "non standard" criteria I tend to look at ......... I guess because I look at quirkier angles - :-)

From Paul (Idyllic Gambling Days) 29.11.11......oh my god, reading the above reminded me of my teenage years in the sixties. I'm 60 now. I didn't have a grandma but I had a neighbour who was exactly like your grandmother. I cannot believe that everything you wrote was a reflection of my teenage years at the races. Except Joan (our neighbour) followed down here what we had was a four race place card run by the local football club, quite illegal but everyone turned a blind eye.
(Ed: Ah, the old four race place accumulator card. Wow, that brings back a few memories as well - lol. Yes, the good old days when the "blind eye" actually saw reality. These days of course we have the goody two shoes wankers who want to control every thought and thing that everyone does because they know better than everyone else in the whole wide world and they are the fonts of all knowledge because they got elected. They claim morality is on their side. Care to check their court records as a grouping?)

From Brian (SelfRate) 26.11.11.......I just want to say that I gave the program a go at Moonee Valley last night and (R3-#8 = $5.20/2.00), (R4-#11 = $4.50/1.90), (R6-#2 = $19.50/4.70), were all winners for me. “Good ratings tool”.

From Ivan (Whole Box & Dice) 16.11.11.........I think the WB&D represents the best value I have seen for some of these things

From Terry (ratings) 13.11.11.......just had to drop you a note to say thanks for Strike One at Sydney yesterday. When I saw you had it equal top rated I thought you must have been drunk...........daily double here paid over $275............just great. Thanks.
(Ed: Yes it's good when the 50/1 pops salute which is about every blue moon unfortunately)

From Peter (Whole Box & Dice) 3.11.11.......there are a lot of good ideas and plenty of food for thought. Good value too.

From Gerry (Daily Ratings) 3.11.11............. nice tri in the last at Flemington (nearly 3k).....I basically just used your ratings for the day on the selected races ended up with a nice little profit
(Ed: Yes they will throw up long priced winners from time to time - they are of course only designed to be a "starting point" for your considerations, not "commandments from on high")

From Keith (Whole Box & Dice) 03.11.11.......splendid service, many thanks.

From Brian 25.10.11 (SelfRate) ....... I have used the software (and my workaround) to great effect in conjunction with my own spreadsheets that convert the ratings into a market. A comparison between my calculated odds and the odds available on the TAB just prior to the running of a race enables me to identify the value runners. Last Saturday, the top five rated horses in the Cox Plate provided me with both the winner and the trifecta. Nice !

From Phil 21.10.11 (Grail) ...As a racing and mathematics enthusiast I love your approach

From Gerry 21.10.11.......Thanks for the reply and the advice about reading the compound gambling. I also read a number of the other topics you have on the site namely gambling discipline, deliberately losing and a few others which included 1 on chasing losses. Many years ago when I would go to the Sale races with my Grandfather that was his last piece of advice as we walked in the gates every meeting. If you are losing coming into the last couple of races keep your hands in your pockets,you are better off going home with a little rather than none, I have always remembered that.
(Ed: Your grandfather was a pretty smart guy - as they mostly are!)

From Ed, Sausalito, California 15.10.11 (The Grail)........promised I would write and let you know.........a few modifications and your Grail works out just great on races over here.......in the collect line more often than not..........turf or dirt don't seem to matter ......good on you "mate"
(Ed: Yes I rather suspected it would from my limited knowledge of USA racing - and what a wonderful part of the world you are living in!! Another guy from San Antonio reports the same effect which is pleasing to me because I wasn't quite sure if it would or not :-) )

From Peter 11.10.11..........how you have helped me..... I have been gambling for 25 years, mostly losing, (and) your advice has given me a new found discipline and structure to follow....I thank you very much
(Ed: Welcome. Best letter I have got all week :-)......discipline is the key - the rest is secondary....without discipline you must lose)

From Sarah 6.10.11 (ratings).................enjoying your pressure Point system and the 20/1 winner at Ballarat from the free ratings was great....thanks a lot

From Harold 3.10.11 (SelfRate)........... I purchased a few years ago........love SELFRATE cannot wait for the weekend to come again

From Cyril 27.09.11 (Outrater)................finally got around to using outrater for the first time today............had seven selections for five winners and a second. Is this a normal result?
(Ed: No. Unfortunate but true! Don't hold your breath waiting for the same result today)

From Karyn 18.9.11 (Whole Box & Dice) .......About 6 months ago I bought the whole box and dice package off your website. I have since bought Counter bet and have bought single items prior to this......I am enjoying your products very much

From Scott 04.09.11 (OutRater)........ it landed some good winners yesterday. I had Lone Rock in Melb that got up at $25 and a few others ranging from favourites to about $7 so I had fun yesterday...................

From Jason 29.8.11 (OutRater & Bullets).....I had a few nice wins on Saturday with this system (OutRater), and also the bullets system I bought from you a while back.
(Ed: Glad you're enjoying OutRater - we're pretty happy with it still - it's amazing how that Bullets method keeps delivering after the years since development - I know from feedback there are many out there that still use it every day)

From Les 27.8.11 (Whole Box & Dice- OutRater) ..................what can I say - 25/1 on betfair - bloody brilliant. All paid for plus some. Thank you - Les

From Lesley 26.8.11 (Bots)....As you would know I have a number of your systems and enjoy using them very much. I have been toying with the idea of using a betting bot to run some of the better ones, that require me to be tied to the computer..... I have investigated a few of them, but to be honest have ended up more confused than when I started! Quite a lot of them seem to emanate from Britain and most require monthly fees, whereas I would prefer a once only up front cost. I believe there are services around which may customise a bot for you. I notice you mentioned bots back in May and I was wondering if you had any more feedback or if you were able to point me in the right direction. Your advice is always valued
(Ed: Yes - I am with you on these bots - I remain unconvinced - as much as I have tried to find out, the less cooperative all these people tied up with them seem to be. Maybe that's just the way they are - don't trust anyone - never share information - you know the story…………I am sure they probably do work but cannot get concrete stuff about it all - to the point I've become quite bored with trying to find out - you don't mind things that take time to understand and sort out but when you just keep banging your head against a brick wall I find better things to do…….I am a pretty simple sort of bloke so it needs to be simple for me to do it or I just get frustrated and walk away. Maybe other people have had success understanding it all and getting valuable and verifiable information but I haven't got any further than when my interest in the subject was first spiked)

From oneal 24.8.11 (free Greyhound Gold) ........from a $100 dollar purse to $200 playing at Angle Park, Devonport, Lismore, and Warragul. I loved the greyhound tips sent from your site per my request. Its nice to see there is a slight method to use to get the hocus pocus out of greyhound betting. Thanks again.

From Oskar Missy 17.8.11 (Pressure Point).....up around $600 from the last 7 days using mostly $50 bets on the Pressure Point System.

From Alan 5.8.11 (Masterlays)......I am happy with my purchase of Masterlays. It is is simple, clear and easy to follow. Thanks.

From Maria 2.8.11 (The Grail) .........I purchased grail from you a while ago now and enjoy it very much, I notice that you have a Minimalist 2 staking plan, is it possible to get a copy of this
(Ed: Glad your having success - yes it has been a while since you purchased it - I have sent the new Minimalist II staking plan - you should have received it by now)

From Jamie 1.8.11 (The Grail)....Just thought I’d write this to see if I can get something put up on your feedback section..I bought The Grail last week and decided to use a $100 starting bank as opposed to the $1000 starting bank you used in the trial, I am already $60 better off without too much risk involved. It’s a very well thought out method and it’s so good to be finally able to enjoy the horse racing and make a little extra cash from enjoying the sport without having to stress about losing on my betting and going into panic mode. This is by far the best method I have seen and long term I can see it being highly rewarding, keep up the good work and thanks again.
(Ed: ..the most important phrase you put in there was " and going into panic mode". That will bring you undone 90 times out of a hundred - maybe 95......Glad you are pleased - have fun)

From George 25.7.11 (Pressure Point)........can only bet on weekends unlike you. Last weekend on Saturday and Sunday there were 24 selections for 9 winners and a even stakes return of over 39 units for 24 I outlayed or a return on investment of about 38%........congratulations on an original idea as I haven't seen this approach anywhere else that works............well done
(Ed: Thanks for the kind words George. I would be surprised if the 38% holds up in the long term though. In fact I know it won't on a seven day a week basis but I have noticed Saturday and Sunday do SEEM to be the most consistently profitable days :-))

From Trevor 13.7.11 (Counterbet).....Counter Bet still going strong when I can get to it........

From Andrew 9.7.11 (Pattern 25)............The pattern 25 has been working quite well. It had a very good day today. It works well on a set and forget basis in the background. I will give the " $1000 Staking plan for horse racing" a go together with the CD that you send me. I reckon this is a very safe staking plan and can offer some good results at the same time. Thanks for your help. Not even sure how I came across your site but I like the warnings that you give quite often. They seem to keep me in check and stop me from going back to bad habits........
(Ed: Well done - not so much on the Pattern 25 results but for your very recognition of the bad habits stuff. You've turned "the corner" and you can't do that until you wake up to the bad habits that are there and holding you back in the first place. Anyone that's been involved in racing for more than a couple of years, with average observation skills, should be able to put together a method that gives them the best chance of success.........the ones that do succeed overcome all those "bad gambling habits" along the way as well. The irrational bets, the desperate bets, the who cares I'm in front bets, the it's only an interest bets, the I'm here with my mates and they're having a bet bets........the list is endless. Breaking the cycle is dead set harder than quitting smoking but once you're free of the silliness it can be great fun.)

From Ross....2.7.11 (The Grail)............been meaning to write since I brought this a few months ago to say how pleased I am.........don't bet every day because I work as well but it has won on 95% of the days I've been able to use it............going down to Brisbane this week for State of Origin and I'm happy to tell you that the accommodation is on you guys
(Ed: I am so so jealous! How good has that Lockyer been? Enjoy the game - you'd think Queensland were stone bonkers!)

From David 27.6.11 (Pattern 25).........Thought I'd share this with you. I've noticed that there's a significant increase in the P.O.T. on pattern 25 if you bet only on horses that fall between $6 - $10 Starting Price (or approx)

From Alistair, Warrawong 23.6.11 (Whole Box & Dice) ................if i can't win with all the stuff in this i'll give it up...............great value

From Gerry 15.6.11 (ratings) ........am finding your ratings on horses extremely helpful and great..........

From Anthony 14.6.11 (The Grail)...........concept is excellent and obviously well researched........how long does it take you to research these things?
(Ed: A long time - my wife will tell you "forever"!!)

From Trevor 8.6.11 (CounterBet)....All is good with Counterbet. A great easy to use system.......

From Peter 6.6.11 (The Grail)..........hi Peter....... don't know if this helps but i see a new corporate bookie " READBET " run by one of mark reads relatives ! has a deal of 10% rebate on win and place losing bets .. they claim the win bet will be slightly larger [ couple of cents ] then the super tab pay out , plus the the losing bet 10% rebate . might increase your pot by 6% or 7% on the minimalist ver 11 ?
i am assuming " the grail " prices are from super tab ?...................ps no i don't have an interest in promoting readbet
(Ed: Thanks for that Pete......good tip for those that are interested and makes sense to me. Here's the link for those that wish to investigate further: http://www.readbet.com.au/)

From Joel 30.5.11 (CounterBet)..........undoubtedly one of your first Crash Test Dummies (lol) to try CounterBet let me say how good it is........been using the low level staking approach since starting it .......haven't had one losing day since starting and am about to ramp up now I am confident in how it all works so wish me luck..................terrific work in developing this and detailed as always.....interested to ask what do you see as the greatest risk?
(Ed: Joel you don't need luck but you DO need discipline......my advice is to go from the lowest risk to medium risk staking plan if you want to but don't increase your at risk bank until you really know how it works inside and out....patience, patience, patience! The greatest risk is waiting too long to put the bet on before they jump. The second greatest risk is not waiting long enough to out the bet on before they jump. That takes a fine touch and degree of experience and logic.......)

From Greg 290511 (The Grail) .......Hi Peter, I would like to thank you for the work you put into the grail system, it is doing very well.

From Bill 230511 (AllUp article) .....I have been having some success with running two and three race each-way all up bets (e.g. Races 1&2, 1&2&3, 2&3, 2&3&4 etc.). For an 8 race meeting this means 7 x 2 race all ups (28 units) and 6 x 3 race all ups (48 units). It's amazing how one or two winners coupled with a $2.50 or $3 place getter can mount up. Cheers, Bill

From Jan 180511 (The Grail)...Hi Peter, Not only did it help but I got it in one :-). THANKS

From Jan 170511 (The Grail)...I think I got the concept all right. I was wondering whether you would be prepared to go 'beyond a call of duty' and design and send me a copy of a excel spreadsheet as the ones that I'm making are not working properly please?
(Ed: Have sent to your email addy :-) )

From Gary 19.04.11.................I have used a number of your systems in the past and have not been disappointed.

From Gerald (The Grail) 12.04.11.........Very interesting. You must have spent a lot of time working this all out. Great work.......

From Les..11.04.11........I`m a long time user of your site. I have to say you are still the best value for money there is...(and isn`t that what we punters should be searching for ..VALUE). In my humble opinion you have created the most informative punting site I have come across.

From Alan (Grail) 06.04.11...........without doubt the most successful racing product I have ever purchased...............the apprentices rule has saved me many times..............have reverse engineered the approach and am actually laying the non qualifiers with great success but I guess you thought of that a long time before me?
(Ed: Hi Alan. Yes, the Grail works exceptionally well and I do venture to the "dark side" for laying non qualifiers myself, particularly if they are less than $2.50)

From Ross (The Grail) 31.3.11.............to say I was doubtful when I purchased this is an understatement as I have been burned a few times before with systems but this is the real thing. After nearly two months I can say I have never used anything as successful as this and I have been enjoying punting for over 25 years. Your non chaos theories are exceptionally well thought out as I have discovered as each race goes by. Well done. I am a convert. While I am writing may I also say how much I enjoy the articles you write. You are correct when you stress the importance of overcoming the mind games that I am sure we all experience. To anyone reading this, get the whole box package as it is a real treasure trove of punting ideas. I am so pleased I did. You may publish this on your site if you so feel inclined. Ross.
(Ed: Thanks for the kind words Ross - glad you have joined the right side of the ledger :-))

From Georgios (Self Rate) 250311.........using selfrate in uk races with great success

From David (Prime Factor) 20.3.11.............About three weeks ago I bought the Pre 2009 Methods from you but unfortunately up until yesterday I have been to busy to try out any of the systems that were included. I finally found some time yesterday to try your Prime Factor system and I would just like you to know that it is still performing absolutely brilliantly I had 14 selections with 7 winners including payouts of
(on Betfair) 22.00 15.00 9.00 and 7.00. What can I say except brilliant.
Thank you for all the time and effort that has been put into these systems by everyone at your establishment to help make them so successful. I understand that I will not get such good results every day but it certainly helps to restore your faith in humankind to actually get a system that works after spending thousands of dollars on systems from other people that are not even worth the cost of the paper that you print them out on.
(Ed: Wow - there's a wrap - thanks David - but I'm glad you added "I understand that I will not get such good results every day" - :-))

From "Ozmium" forum 18.311 .......I have used a Racerate system & back tested their figures & they were correct. They do stipulate that their figures are correct. they also stipulate, that it does not mean it is guaranteed to work in the future. What one is paying for is their research based on past results because they don't have results from the future. They then live test the systems for 1-3 months after that to see if they perform .......Bhagwan

From Garry, Essendon (The Grail) 18.3.11.................a bit confused as to what to do when the dead heat happened this afternoon. Other than that has been going very very well in the five weeks since purchase.
(Ed: Good question Garry about the dead heat result. As it hasn't been a factor in all the races up until now, we weren't sure either!  At the end of about 30 seconds consideration (:-)) we simply copped the loss and moved on. It was a lineball decision but we went with the conservative approach and reccomend that at all times. I know....boring)

From "Ozmium" forum 18.311......I dont use any of the free ones but I did buy Master Lays and I am in front and continue to use it. Highly recommend racerate so far. No **** at all.....marksto2

From Simon (The Grail) 13.3.11.................the word extraordinary comes to mind..............have never purchased a system before and approached it with a deal of skepticism but have been completely surprised.......have not had a losing day since I brought it off you nearly a month ago.............agree with your ideas on slow but sure

From Tom (Whole Box & Dice) 07.03.11........Hi Its Tom I recently got the whole box and dice and simply love the stuff in it ......

From Henry (Box & Dice) 02.3.11...........l'm enjoying the SSG Software and your Ratings...been having fun with them plus Pos+,Pat25,Chev using them all in my Tris&1st4s...plus taking the 1st longest pre post over 15/1 with them in my first four sections had couple of hits ....but the ssg sure gets a lot of big Divies

From Paul (free systems) 25.2.11.....................o.m.g. what a lot of work you have put into these freebies.... I don't normally or should say that I don't bet on the "doggies" or the" red hots" but i will be looking at them at a different angle

From Helen, Grafton (The Grail) 19.2.11...............faith in this continues to grow as the results roll in every day ....... am using the medium staking plan but wish now I had started on the high risk method you have outlined......
(Ed: Oh dear oh dear - Helen - I hope you are re-reading this. Remember the instructions and why it is called "high risk"?)

From Mick, Henley Beach (The Grail) 13.2.11....three words, very very good

From Aaron, Cootamundra (The Grail) 8.2.11..........the logic behind the selection process is quite brilliant......started every day has been a winner...hope it keeps going
(Ed: You and me both Aaron :-))

From Bernie (Daily Ratings) 20.12.10.................a long term subscriber (satisfied) to your ratings........well done on Kylemore castle at Barnsdale this afternoon......you had it top rated at $3.10....paid nearly $14 here in NSW..............has paid for the turkey the ham the presents and then some....lol
(Ed: Thanks for your continued support . Merry Xmas!)

From James (Cascade 10) 19.11.10................(cascade 10)..... was exactly what I needed to get my betting focus..............best thing ever........thanks

From Elliott (Pattern 44) 16.11.10..................just curious as to why you describe it as a place betting method...........since I started using this a couple of weeks ago I have made a substantial profit betting for the win.................
(Ed: Hi Elliott - yes Pattern 44 remains a great conundrum to me but I still believe in the long term it is a place betting not win betting idea. Only time will tell but frankly it is driving me crazy!)

From Chris (Cacsade 10) 13.11.10...............Your Cascade 10 staking system is simply the best thing I have ever bought on line for racing............been using it now for a few months and it has completely turned around my profit / loss ratio like nothing else................mathematically brilliant approach which has eliminated the dreaded run of outs............you should be charging more for this!
(Ed: Thanks Chris for the kind words. We like it as well!)

From Henry (Pattern25/Positive Plus/ Chevron) 1.11.10............l've been down loading the form from AustRacBoard...and saving them..then opening it up with Mic/soft/Office...and high lite what l don't need and delete them .... all you have left is what you need...found it much quicker....just thought you like to know...thanks to you still going great with them...Henry
(Ed: Good news Henry that things are still going well for you after all this time. You are correct about easy ways to do the form. Much better than the bad old days with newspapers spread out all over the joint! I use a programme called Dreamweaver.......more on it by clicking here but it sounds like you've already got it sorted!)

From Ben (BlockBuster) 30.10.10............now three days of operation in and every day has been a winning day. Wow. This is just great......................so far compiles as 25 units invested for 47.6 units returned and no sign of the bogie man yet.............
(Ed: Refer previous reply :-))

From Ben (BlockBuster) 29.10.10............used Blockbuster for the first time yesterday - five selections for two winners a second and a third.........total of 5 units out for nearly 13 units return..... first system I've ever purchased so to say I am realy pleased is an understatement..........
(Ed: It is unlikely to be that good every day ben so caution is advised. Don't get rash. Don't think it's infallible because it's not...... but I am pleased you had good fun on your first attempt!)

From John (Whole Box & Dice) 15.10.10.........I received the whole box and dice CD last week and I was more than pleased with the contents and infomation provide. You have done a fantastic job developing all these systems....................

From Jack (SelfRate 8.10.10)..........I know everyone is talking about the new software and I may well purchase that one day but I am bound over to say that your selfrate software that I have had for the last three years is absolutely wonderful. I know it is slower to do and all that but as I am retired the essence of time is something I am willing to sacrifice in the aim of accuracy. Honestly Peter if it wasn't for selfrate supplementing our pension I don't know what we would have done over the last couple of years or how we would have paid those mongrel electricity bills. You may use this on your computer site if you should so desire............Jack
(Ed: Thank you Jack. The other matter you mentioned is being attended to and you should get the package in the next few days. I am grateful for your input. As I say many times - to the point of being very boring- it is the very discipline and time input that you show that wins in the end)

From Gerald (general) 26.8.10........All your systems are brilliant and very well done,also well thought out. Congratulations on putting a lot of people on the straight and narrow.Help me no end thanks..............
(Ed: [blushing] Thanks for the kind words Gerald. The problem with trying to help people stay on the straight and narrow is: who keeps me on the straight and narrow? (lol) A lot of what I write ain't brain surgery - if it is , please God, never let me need a brain surgeon! I know I have said it many times but 90% of it comes down to discipline and controlling the emotions that make us gamblers in the first place. By the way, despite what the doo-gooders endlessly tell us, there is NOTHING wrong with gambling. Beats heroin adiction hands down. The only problem with most things happens when they're taken to excess. Stay in control. Be disciplined and enjoy the ride! Above all else - HAVE FUN - that's what it is supposed to be.)

From John (ratings) 25.7.10 .................today was simply brilliant....thanks a million well not quite but a long way over a thousand

From Bill: (general) 19.7.10...........Thanks for a great site for racing fans. I particulary love the recent statistical information you have provided, Looking forward to more of the same.......

From Gerry (free Tas Ratings) 15.7.10..........thanks for your free Tassie ratings..........took your 3x3x3x3.........paid $1300+ so it might be my shout...............great service for zilch lol
(Ed: Onya Gerry - but I wouldn't count on it happening every day :-))

From Andy (Pattern 25) 1.7.10.......well done on the last month of Pattern 25.........use larger units than your 25 so as you can imagine I have a little more spending money than I was anticipating for our trip away....thanks .......heartily reccomended.

From Tim (Pattern 25) 23.6.10 ......cracker of a day today with a healthy profit for June so far.....well done on the changes you made.......perceptive......
(Ed: Yes Tim. I am just doing my results now. I didn't think I was going mad! May was a poor month so it is good to see the June "correction in direction". Hey I might copyright that - "correction in direction" - like it. I still have doubts about the "change of season" to the lesser class of winter horse and wonder if there will be recurrence at the end of winter when the better class of horse comes back so I have concerns there. Still - onwards and upwards :-))

From Henry (various) 9.6.10............l been happy with "Pat 25" for l mixed them with paylays .. l've had 42 bets and winning $48 for a dollar.. and thanks for your dogs Ratings found them very useful been taking been taking 20 dogs over the 920 ratings and backing them for 5 starts...been good results with parlays....l have been using your three Chev..Pos+...Pat 25..on all tracks just having a small tickle........any way Thanks for every thing...Henry
(Ed:Thanks Henry for the feedback .......yes, I can imagine that would work well on the Tasmanian dogs ratings - interesting thought starter!)

From Russell (Daily Ratings) 31.5.10 ....... I have been using your ratings for the past 2 months and have been enjoying some success.......I think you run a great service

Josh (Mega CD / ratings) 27.5.10.......received the Mega Systems CD and thank you, It is good to see plans for greyhounds and Harness racing. Also thank you for the bonus subscription to your ratings service I have been getting good any-2 bets..............

From Shepherd (Pattern 25) 4.5.10.........Thanks for getting back to me so quickly with answers to my queries, once Ive done the workouts a few times Im sure I will be fine, but good to know you are only an email away from providing assistance......
(Ed: No probs - that's what is supposed to happen isn't it? )

From Jason (Pattern 25) 28.4.10...........Good start with the system Peter ......I used a $10 each way investment today for a 34% return on money invested. Should have been 41% except for rookie mistake..........A quick question - on a day with 30 races to invest in do you typically just run a set and forget and place all the investments for the day at once? If you only have a certain bank for investing do you scale the dollar value of the bets back?.........What are your thoughts on this when starting out.
(Ed:I always use “set and forget” because I have a lot of stuff on the go simultaneously – mostly because of the number of years I have been playing with these things and I do some lay betting on Betfair ( laying horses not rated in the daily ratings top 4 that are less than $3.00) so my day (and nights!) are fairly full . I recommend people start with bets equal to 3% of their bank – anything more is risky – anything else is “so big deal!” – but hey, that’s up to you.Bet ONLY what you can afford to lose J - boring aren’t I?)

From Carl (Pattern 25) 24.4.10................have never felt compelled to write "testimonials" to anyone BUT I make an exception here. I have bought systems before from other sellers like xxxxxxxxxxx but amazingly as soon as I have they seem to stop working as if by magic to somehow punish me for my foolishness. This is something quite unreal. This afternoon was sensational and I enjoyed it immensely. For something that is really quite simple the results are astounding. A thousand thanks......literally.
(Ed: Thanks for making an exception Carl - yes a great day yesterday - pity they all can't be like that!!)

From Marc (Whole Box & Dice) 22.4.10.....Thanks for the prompt service and good communication. The "whole box and dice" arrived yesterday, as Express Posted items should. I'd love to comment on what's in the package, but after a quick look, I see it's going to take months to peruse the whole lot - and that's exactly what I wanted! So it looks good so far and let's hope I can use a few ideas from the disk. Thanks too, for the ratings ... I'm sure I'll be using those for a while also. The whole envelope was very welcome.
(Ed: No worries Marc - enjoy!)

From Peter (Daily Ratings) 12.4.10..................admit I was sceptical at first as I am with all racing based products............your ratings profitability has exceeded my expectations...... get a lot out of the punting philosophy type article you write as well as they are well written and thought provoking.......... thanks

From Matt (Dog Busters) 29.3.10 ..........I purchased the Dog Busters Plan in late 2008. I really like the plan, have been able to pick up some really good winners. With regards to the staking plan I am having a bit of trouble trying to work out what the deficit amount should be after each bet. Are you able to email the Excel spreadsheet?
(Ed: Glad to know that Dog Busters is still delivering for you - spreadsheet is no worries)

From Mark (Pattern 25) 21.3.10.......You know it's really interesting looking at the selections and the pricing the market throws up. Small Minds a case in point. It beats Aloha by 1.9 lengths last start, coming HOME quite well, looking for all the world it can get longer and in this race the market assesses it at 35-1, with Aloha at 5-1. I suppose that is the reality of an imperfect market, it creates opportunities. I like the system, nice and simple and relying on known probabilities to assert themselves over the long term, with the advantage of capitalising on the mispricing of the market. Nice Work, thanks for a great system, I won't expect last weekend on a regular basis but it sure looks like a great no fuss steady accumulator....I had an excellent day
(Ed: just a pity every day can't be be like that though :-)

From Henry (Pattern 25) 21.3.10........just like to thank your for your Pat-25 selections..thanks to you l had a great arvo..again thanks....

From Tim, NZ, (Box & Dice) 21.3.10...........just have to add my voice to the chorus already on your website ... you have a fantastic way of doing business prompt professional replies to any queries and your website is just a wealth of free information

From Rod (ratings) 17.3.10..............don't know how you do it but when they arrive at $30 plus and are top rated I don't really care.......then to follow it up a couple later with a $13 winner is really just too much.....fan-bloody-tastic........needless to say I'm very happy with your product....use this on your web site if you choose.......thank you, Rod
(Ed: Onya Rod - yes it was another good day today - glad to be of assistance)

From Andrew (ratings) 6.3.10.........this afternoon was just the best...........thanks..............ratings just keep getting better and better..........do you punt these yourself? If so, why not just punt them?
(Ed: Thanks for the kind words Andrew. Why? There's lots to go round :-) and shared works better for me - always has!)

Fron John (ratings) 27.2.10 .............I know from many years of correspondence that you don't 'blow your own trumpet' so please allow me to blow it for you through your feed back page. What a great day today. The best I've had in four or five years.....................in all 21 races you rated 15 winners and had 7 trifectas and more overlays than I could poke a stick at..................as always, well done............John

From Joe (Prime Factor) 27.2.10 ......I have been a keen student of your selection system Prime factor, but [ yes there is always a but ] in the past few weeks selections have not been hitting the line in first position until yesterday Sydney 4 selections one at $31 another at $10.30 another at $8.50 and the last one at $2.60......... so as you always say hang in there
(Ed: Impossible to over emphasise the virtue of patience - it is a vital part of ANY successful venture)

From Ben (Ultimate) 26.2.10..........want to say what a great product............ULTIMATE has been going very well for me..........

From Helena ( ratings) 25.2.10..........yesterday did start slowly but Falconten at nearly $25 when you had it price rated at just over $4 sure made up for the slow start .... very pleased......
(Ed: Yes I had a good day at the end too Helena - glad you're happy!)

From Leon (ratings) 22.2.10............they seem pretty good but I am not sure of the best way to bet them to make a profit
(Ed: When I get a big chunk of time I have been playing (modestly successfully) by laying any UNRATED horse less than $4.50 on Betfair and backing any for a place that are well over the rated odds. As I said, only modestly, but still quite successfully)

From Colin (ratings) 19.2.10............excellent this week with so many winners and so many at big overs.....been so good so far this week I am seriously looking at reducing my bets for the weekend. Why do I feel less confident the more I back? Got me beat. Thanks again..............
(Ed: That's actually a good question Col. I see it happen all the time. A huge run a of winners often leads to the "Doomsday theory" in that "Doomsday" must be just around the corner. I don't agree with it. It is demonstrably as false as the belief that if you've backed a lot of losers the next winner must be just around the corner.Each race is an individual event - in no way related to the one before it or the one after it. There is no reason for things to vary from the long term mean average. I'll keep betting at the same comfort level this weekend as I have been during the week as well. Has been a good week for overlays hasn't it?)

From Eric (ratings) 16.2.10...........congratulations on yesterday with your ratings pricing At The Roxy at Lismore at $4.40 and it paid over $16 here in Victoria...........unbelievable value .. well done

From Mark (ratings) 15.2.10........I just wanted to let you know how much I appreciate you adding prices to your ratings. I have been using your ratings for about 6 months now and have purchased a number of your systems including your self rate software. I have always been impressed with your service and professionalism...... I find your site to be absolutely wonderful. Full of great information and your personal observations I find to be very refreshing. I have been punting on and off for about 30 years (since 15), I worked in the racing industry as xxxxxxxxxxxxxx for about 7 years for racingnsw, so I have seen a number of sides of the industry. I now own a number of businesses and investments and I am so pleased to hear your views on money and how people need to view their punting activities and the caution they need to take....... Since finding your site and considering your punting philosophy I have found my own punting to be lifted to a whole new level. Certainly in profit but also in my whole approach...... The price guide you have added was for me the missing link as I am a bit obsessed about value. I am using it as a broad guide and tweak it to suit myself, depending on scratchings and my own opinion of the form of horses not in your top 4. The results of your ratings continue to be impressive and this price guide for me has been excellent in crafting a more coherent strategy linked to value, Saturday just being an outstanding day for example. I am also a believer in karma and I just wanted to let you know that your work has many positive effects out side of the passing on of punting information. Please keep up the good work, your time and effort is very much appreciated
(Ed: You will never know how much your kind thoughts are appreciated – seriously! I sit here day after day on this computer, occasionally looking out the window to my magnificent back yard and garden which I love to death, and write this stuff which is based on my own experiences and lessons hard learned. (As a matter of fact as I write this there is a big kookaburra sitting on branch of the tree right outside the window - close enough for me to reach out and touch if the window was open - and it is just staring at me - knowingly! Very un-nerving!) Occasionally I think “I wonder if anyone is reading this stuff or am I just kidding myself that it is actually worthwhile doing?” I guess we all have self doubts – I know I do! I make a modest profit from my punting activities for which I am very grateful and enjoy. I would like to think that passing on the knowledge I have obtained from over 50 years of doing this (the first 40 were not profitable I might add - lol) does actually help others to get into the black. If it works for you I am very happy. Thanks again for the kind words.)

From Mike (ratings) 13.2.10............congrats on ratings again today - finally, you have started putting prices with them. Well done. Lots of overs today which made for a good afternoon.....regards
(Ed: Hi again Mike. Gosh, you've been with these ratings for a long time - one of the brave originals! As you know, I have dabbled with pricing these in the past but abandoned publishing them because I just wasn't happy with it at that stage and I think a lot of folks found it distracting for what they were doing with the ratings. But, yes, they are back and will stay back this time as I believe the prices are one of the main planks of success and a good guide to establishing a pattern of investment. I've set the prices mechanism at 120% so it gives you a bit more flexibility in allowing for the tote take out percentage)

From Con (systems) 13.2.10 ........... started today, 13/2/2010 on one of your free systems. Success immediately.17 Bets 14 collects.....Ta....EX LOSER.
(Ed: You're welcome....and stay committed to being an "ex loser".....if you can it really is much more fun!)

From Paul (general) 10.2.10 ................Thanks for a great site with lots of free information especially the favs report now available for download.......Keep up the good work

From Steven (Whole Box & Dice) 8.2.10 .............. wow where to start. There is just so much here to digest....... best value racing product I have ever purchased. I guess the sad thing from your perspective is that I will never have to buy anything again from you............best wishes

From Michael (Master lays) 4.2.10 .............. purchased your Master Lays system last year ....... good success.

From Les (Ultimate), 4.2.10.........I had a brainwave today,due to work commitments,family etc time is hard to come by to do the form everyday. I am sure there are others out there with the same problem,so I thought if I could get in touch with 6 other ultimate system users we could form a "ring" and do a day each a week and email our selections to the others in the "ring".Then the next week you do the next day, so if you started on a Monday ,the next week you do Tuesday and so on as some days have more meetings than others to make it fair for all. What do you think? Other system owners could do this too. Would you mind putting this on the feedback page and if anyone is interested forwarding my email to them Keep up the good work... Les
(Ed: What a great idea.....well, the offer is there.... if people choose to reply, I shall pass on your e-mail to them ! )

From Rex, Stanthorpe, 2.2.10 (SelfRate) ................can I say how much I enjoy your products. It restores my faith in the punting industry that you take an honest no bulls*** approach to the way you do business. It is appreciated, believe me.
(Ed: Thanks Rex - I sleep well at night. Everything on this site is exactly as it has happened and. as I point out many many times, (to the point of being plain boring) there are no guarantees that what can occur in one instance can OR CANNOT be replicated again. It is why it is called gambling - and why I love it sooooo much :-) - I am sure you will enjoy the SelfRate as much as the others - I still use the basis of it very regularly and have done for years so you get no complaints from me. It is still, even in its raw form, quite reliable and throws up many many winners. If it didn't, I wouldn't still be retailing it and that is, as you say,is no bull****)

From Tim 24.1.10 (Prime Factor / Counters) ...............purchased both from you just before Christmas and have been running them in tandem .........great results ..... didn't know it was this easy......
(Ed: It's not "this easy" - pause to consider this PLEASE - you may just have started at a good place to start - don't overlook this and go crazy - but I am happy for you!).

From Andrew 3.1.10 (Wole Box & Dice)...........purchased some four weeks ago and I feel compelled to write and thank you for an excellent product that has exceeded my expectations............I have only explored your Master Lay method so far in depth but just this one system has paid for the purchase quite a few times over so thank you.....................after a while you get so used to being ripped off so this has made a very pleasant change and I compliment you on your honesty and level of service......................feel free to use this letter on your site.....................looking forward to many many more hours of exploration and evaluation..........
(Ed: Wow. Andrew, if I wasn't already married.....lol.....thanks. There's nothing I can add to that!!! The whole idea is to enjoy and I am pleased to see that you are doing that.)

From Yvette 2.1.10 (ratings) .................are getting even more accurate as the last year has gone on................wanted to know are they the same as the SelfRate ratings because we get some slightly different selections to the daily ratings you publish when we use the SelfRate programme?
(Ed: Good question Yvette. The daily ratings started out being exactly the same as the Selfrate ratings a couple of years ago and were done for people who simply didn't have the time to do the SelfRate ratings themselves. However, as the years passed the daily ratings evolved through a combination of factors into a variation of the SelfRate originals. This is not to say that your Selfrate ratings that you generate are not valid but if I were to re-write that programme I would vary the weighted factors slightly. For one thing I now completely DISREGARD track conditions as my thinking on this has changed over the years. In most circumstances (and all you go on is "most" or you drive yourself crazy and it's not worth it) I now believe the track condition is irrelevant to the performance of most horses. The "purists" can throw their hands in the air as much as they like - that's just my view and I have been doing pretty well with this approach.
In the original software that you have, you may also like to try varying the jockey weighting. I no longer worry about the "top 8" at each track. I now have a list of the top 40 jockeys in Australia that I evaluate as a top 8 "option" that I update each 6 months or thereabouts. In fact the list I use is published elsewhere on this site - the link is on the front page.
The other variation to the the original SelfRate programme is that if a horse is resuming from a spell I put it in the "more than 28 days" category rather than a a first up from a spell option - again, this is an evolution simply through day to day observation of thousands and thousands of races. Thanks for the email and kind words. I have responded to you off site in more detail as you would be aware.

From Ross 25.12.09 (greyhound tips):.............pleased to know your six top rated winners in a row at last night's Hobart dogs not only paid for the xmas turkey and ham but also went a long way to paying for the presents as well (lol) - especially the one at 10/1.........well done, but why do you do it for free?

From Henry 24.12.09 (greyhound tips): Thanks for your free greyhound tips that you been sending--all the best on Xmas and may 2010 be a better year for all of us
(Ed:Hope you a good one too - may they all hurry HOME! Thanks for your good wishes!)

From Peter 20.12.09 (general): I have spent a couple of days scouring your site and can’t believe the amount of useful information is on it. Thank you! I am about to purchase and try one of your Methodologies – do you have a favourite? I have punted for many years with only moderate success, but in recent years moderate has become very rarely. I can only put it down to the plethora of exotic betting that I am lured to by the promise of big dividends. Is it fair to assume, that continuous chasing of exotic betting as opposed to a staking plan on a win & place system, will never deliver the same long term results? What is your opinion?
(Ed: Thanks for the e-mail and kind words. You are right on your observations that the lure of the big dividends can be fatal – big dividends (by their nature) magnify the risk. Interestingly, I was speaking with one of the form experts down here only a couple of weeks ago and we were talking about boxing four in every trifecta. He rightly pointed out that it guarantees you are taking 23 losing bets in every race! Pretty sobering thought – so if you only crack the trifecta once in 24 races it has to pay a dividend of $576 to even break square. Boxing three means if you crack it once in 24 races it only has to pay $144 to break square. Makes you stop and think doesn’t it? My favourite is split between the original Prime Factor method and Counters and Reflections but I don’t have as much time to punt like I used to as the site takes a lot of work and providing ratings seven days a week takes it toll as well.)

From Adam 16.12.09: I generally keep my comments to myself these days, but i just have to respond to the latest piece of feedback from that ignoramus...... the free information on ur site is worth more than any free tips will ever be.....thankyou...thankyou, and thankyou for this amazing resource...the knowledge i have gained from ur site is simply priceless......the internet would be a poorer place without a site like yours......keep up the fantastic work, and as you say...karma will be good to you..... cheers
(Ed: Interesting the people out there, isn't it? That all kinds of different people can come to the same site and get such a variety of "stuff" from it...never ceases to amaze me......I feel sorry for the guy that with an attitude to life like that it is almost impossible to end up on the right side of the ledger......negative attitudes attract other negatives.....always have, always will .........:-).....the only reason I published the email was for others to gain experience from it and to reassess their own attitudes to it all .............thanks for the kind words)

From Byron177 (unknown - hotmail address)14.12.09 : For years I have been coming to your scummy site for your free tips but now you low life b*******s have cut back on the number of free tips you put on your s*** site....... you're jus low life
(Ed: Well Byron, if that is RaceRate.com, what can I say? Perhaps time to reflect on the words of those wiser than I, one of whom said "Give nothing away. People neither value it nor understand the spirit in which it was given". Perhaps Byron, you charming piece of work, you should spread your warmth on other sites. Why favour me with your best wishes alone? If anyone else feels the same, please let me know. I can fix it very quickly :-) - oh, and Byron old son, have a happy Christmas - undoubtedly you won't be having a prosperous new year, but hey, that's life)

From Terry (U.K.) (166 Systems CD) 01.12.09: An excellent product ...... very quick delivery.......well packaged............thanks

From Shaunn (Beaudesert) 28.11.09: Thankyou for the rroducts selfrate and crackerjack..... between both systems and 2 days I have won my total outlay plus 500 percent more. Thankyou very much, crackerjack doesn’t stop amazing me with picks like Our Movie Star that payed out 5.70 for the win.

From Chris (Adelaide) 18.11.09 (Box & Dice): Many thanks guys.You are a cut above the rest!

From Mick, Canberra (12.11.09) Master Lays: ....bought SelfRate and MasterLays off you earlier today....so far MasterLays looks very promising.....normally a Back punter, but betfair has opened my eyes to laying, and i have seen how MasterLays has worked.......Since getting the system off you a few hours ago, i am 6 from 6 lays on day 1 and its pretty much paid for itself....

From Mark (2.11.09) Chevron: I just bought the Chevron method, really surprised about rule 1, which discards all SA, TAS and NT races. What is the reasoning behind it?
(Ed: The problem with NT, SA and Tas racing is that they are of such poor quality that consistency goes out the window using them – even the lowest class of meetings in Victoria and NSW run to about $12000 to $15000 a race for the lowest class of racing. South Australian racing, even at Morphettville tomorrow, Melbourne Cup day, has races worth only $7750, a whopping $8250 for a 0-62 Hdcp and a class 3, and a 0-75 which is pathetic – it’s why horses that win there are often those whose last start has been a $4000 race at Victor Harbour – the NT is the same and, sadly, so Tasmania has become.
What I have found over the years is that you can’t win money backing second rate horses and these states are the places of last resort of second class horses – sad story – but true as much as love the people here in Tasmania in the racing game – any horse of any ability goes straight to Victoria or NSW provincials.
So that in a nutshell is the reason why – the pickings are so much more consistent in Qld, NSW, Vic and WA J - and I am heavily in to consistency – sadly the other States are becoming losing propositions that do very little but lengthen the “run of outs” numbers - I can't see any change in the near future until prize money levels are raised and the poor sods paying up for these horses every month get a decent chance of return.What they have a chance of getting at the moment makes me ask why do they bother? You'd have to have a horse capable of winning four races or more a year - and n ot many do that! I guess that's why there are so many trainers that also race their own horses in these States either outright or in syndicates.)

From Joe (18.10.09) Prime Factor: Prime Factor is still keeping me in a good supply of VB longnecks,and i know that is the reason you came up with this system
(Ed: speechless - just speechless :-)

From Mike (13.10.09) - General -" ....... apart from that good news, which I'm sure you find repetitious, why don't you set up a live forum on this site? I think it would be a good idea."
(Ed: Thanks Mike for the kind words - which I won't bore others with but they were appreciated :-). I have toyed with the idea of a live forum but when I see the absolute BS that ALL the others quickly deteriorate in to, I think I'll pass. Seems to me that no matter how well intentioned at the start, unless you have a strictly moderated forum (which I certainly don't have the time or energy to do!) the sniping and swearing and generally bad doses of s.o.l. quickly float to the top and I get bored with that stuff very very very quickly. I like positive people - not negative drones. Think I'll leave that to others that have far more time than me to avoid slander and libel law suits!! Life is way too short to bother with it all.)

From Pat (8.10.09) Free Tips: .......got back from collecting on Our Questro at the club.........paid $26.00 and $4.30 here in Victoria....... can't tell you how much I needed that I was so desperate I had 50 each way it...........you deserve a medal. Thanks.
(Ed: I'm glad it saluted for you but you're the one that needs a medal! 50 each way on a horse thrown up by a system that I haven't finished testing and I don't know if it works? Good grief - what are you doing? Pat - I love you like a brother but this is the very reason why I am hesitant to put up these selections up during the testing phase. OMG!)

From Darrin (20.9.09) (Par Times): Just a short note to say once again you have excelled in service and information, you have helped me on my way to overcoming a big problem with my speed ratings.

From Alex:(17.9.09) HOMElander $ 31.60 in NSW ... I cant remember when I last backed $30 odd winner ....Thanks Alex
(Ed: You're very welcome - they bob up occasionally like that!)

From Gordon (12.9.09) General: Here is a question for you. When should I make Each Way bets for a couple of years now I have focused on Win bets taking advantage of the excellent prices (smaller takeouts) Top Fluc, Best of the three totes or Betfair. Centrebet on Saturdays even offer either Super + which is fixed price at time of placing bet or best of the three (whatever pays more) or Best Of Best which is best of the three or best fluc (whatever pays more) or of course Betfair. Whenever I have run any stats the place portion of my bets has always performed worse than my Win bets. Peter I would appreciate any advice for me based upon your years of experience because I would like to understand more for my own selection processes. Thanks for your time and your service

(Ed: Firstly let me say, yes, I have had years of experience – no, I am not an expert. I have found overwhelmingly that Betfair (for me) is the best option – the downside is that sometimes, midweek particularly, you may not be always able to get set at a better than tote price – the issue of top fluctuation is currently being discussed in some detail (Rob Waterhouse’s contribution is interesting read) at the Ausrace forum which I visit to read – rarely participate (for many reasons) – here’s the link if you want to have a read : http://ausrace.com/pipermail/ausrace/2009-September/date.html - With regard to the place angle strike rate, - yes – I have read a very in depth mathematical reason why your place strike rate is not simply 3 times the win strike rate – it was a very convoluted (but convincing) argument – at the end of the day it appears the strike rate will only ever average 2.2 times the win strike rate at best – which is why I guess so many each way systems are 1 unit a win and 4 or 5 a place – sorry I can’t remember the details but it did make sense at the time and I don’t think I was in drink when I read it through)

From Peter (7.9.09) Ratings Service ........thanks for the terrific results over the weekend...... been a subscriber since day one but Saturday's 81% strike rate was quite unreal....... you can use this email on your feed back page if you wish............ those that are thinking about it all I say is jump on.... thanks

From Adrian (1.09.09) - (Tas Greyhound Ratings) ..............your strike rate is unbelievably excellent - guess you intend charging for these soon?
(Ed:    No )

From Joe (1.09.09) Prime Factor: I have been using prime factor over the past few weeks and am still in front even had winners over $15 plus so that is reallly a big help. , thank you it it is magic

From Alan (subscriber to RaceRate ratings) 21.8.09: Firstly, I would like to thank you for your ratings that I subscribe to. With my own staking plan, I have made a profit every month since I started my subscription backing your top 3 rated horses. The exception is I don't back horses that are odds on, ie returning less than $2.00, then I include your 4th rated horse when available.I assume your ratings are going to be on a continual basis.
(Ed: NO WORRIES Alan – I am glad to hear it is going well for you – good when something you pay for actually works ;-))

From Paul (Frankston) 11.8.09 (General): ......Racerate would have to be the best free horseracing site in oz. Keep up the good work

From Michael 04.08.09 (General): I was googling "Sean Bartholomew" as I am desperate to find a way out of a slump where I have no confidence in my selections laying with Betfair and came across your site. After reading nearly the whole webpage I would like to thank you for giving me new ideas and bringing back the confidence I once had. (Next thing to do is reload my account and play sensibly) I am like how you were once "A good punter but a bad gambler". You have given me a new resurrection of life with punting and hope I will succeed........Good to know there's a site from a real punter with real stories.
(Ed: Thanks for the kind words - good luck with your "revival" - I know I sound like a broken record but the key word is discipline - everything else is a distant second)

From Nick (Essendon) 13.7.09 (Daily Ratings):...........great weekend all up ..... hard not to win money. You must have won a fortune betting top three lol
(Ed: Glad you had a good run Nick. A fortune? Well, not exactly - but then again I never set out to win one :-)

From Col (Esperance) 8.7.09 (Daily Ratings): ..............I've been simply waiting for a top rated horse to be more than 25 points clear of the next rated runner.........been the most suucessful I've found. Regards...........

From (anon) (Melbourne) 25.6.09 (Ratings):..........I only lay bet these days on betfair and......use your ratings to help me sort out the non winners.......yesterday you rated 15/17 winners in the top 4 which was absolutely outstanding and I notice is becoming more and more commonplace as your rating database continues to expand. Congratulations.

From Lyle (Townsville) 19.6.09 (Crackerjack): .........had my first "start" with Crackerjack that I got from you the other day and being a Queenslander stuck with Mackay races yesterday .....three winners Gremmo $6.70, Carry The Clubs $5.40 and Flying Test at $7.00. Hard to lose with prices like that eh? Thanks for an interesting system. Lyle.
(Ed: Umm - great Lyle but one small thing. Go back and check the Initial Eliminations rules - you'll note that Gremmo was not a true selection as its last start was 6 days ago - not bad the other two though :-) - guess Gremmo was your "lucky mis-selection" - don't worry - we all have them!)

From Barry (N.T.) 11.6.09 (Daily Ratings): .........you know I follow the top 2 rated playing catch up footy......... last few days unreal...... today was the clincher when you struck 100% top two rated winners in all your selections... mate, like shooting barra in a barrel....roll on South Africa tonight

From Tony (St Kilda) 9.6.09 (Ratings) : .......just great value for money, especially the long priced ones that keep bobbing up........where do they come from?

From F Fgh (Selfrate) 4.6.09: selfrate is a unique betting tool really its the 1st time i talk like this as a gambling product.i ve never seen seen such reqular winners at good prices.i m not flattering i tell the truth thank u very much.

From George (Master Lays / Favourite Lays) 27.5.09: Very good angle for Betfair players.I have been laying using Master Lay and Stats from Fav E book both angles proving very reliable

From Bobby (Daily Ratings) 15.5.09: Having fun with your ratings so far without getting carried away on the punt. Must admit all the positive reviews
you receive are spot on and absolute value for money.........many thanks for all your help. Keep up the excellent work

From Darrin (Bullets) 15.5.09: a while ago i purchased bullets from you ................enjoying very much

From "sparky", Rockhampton 8.5.09: ........As someone with a loose stable connection, I was stunned to see your ratings top rated Danwana in Rockhampton yesterday. I was happy with the $14+ dividend but we all can't work out why it was top rated
(Ed: Yes - there had to be local money for it - it paid much better elsewhere :-)

From Darren, (Par Times) 4.5.09: I have run a heap of data through my programs & the figures have proven to be very accurate. Much appreciated.

From Kathryn, Kilmore (Lay Safe) 28.4.09 ............started doing this full time when I got laid off.......made more in the last fortnight than in the previous 6 weeks of working
(Ed: Kathryn, Kathryn - what are you doing? This is supposed to be for recreation and fun and slow and patient accumulation. It is NOT a substitute for remunerated work and it worries the hell out of me when I read stuff like this. PLEASE - PLEASE - do not regard this as some sort of permanent income stream. Fun and recreation - that's all this is - it can never be a substitute for real employment as only about 4% of people have the patience, mental strength and discipline to do it full time successfully. You are far better off getting another full time or part time job than relying on the continuing success of ANYTHING here. I am very concerned that you have chosen your current course of action.)

From Ted, Brighton (SelfRate) 13.4.09................been going very well this month.............thanks also for other ratings on site that you do for free.... rare commodity these days

From Peter, Woolloongabba 12.4.09 (Lay Safe) .............excellent...... in profit and loving it.......annoyed though that I hadn't "seen" it before

From Anthony, Broome (Master Lays) 1.4.09 .................started using a couple of days ago. To say I am pleased with the results would be a massive understatement. What does a losing day feel like?
(Ed: Oh dear.....don't say that Anthony or we are all doomed!!!!)

From Alwyn, A.C.T. (ratings) 21.3.09......however a good collect yesterday on Old Mystique has more than paid for the ratings for the next year....thanks

From Bryan, Armidale (Master Lays) 9.3.09: I guess as one of your first to try Master Lays I guess I should report that this is better than I ever imagined. Now would be a good time to either stop selling this or put the price up substantially as obviously the more people start using this the harder it will be to match bets - pleeeezzzzeee!

From Lee (ratings) 18.2.09: ...I would like to congratulate you . I think you have finally hit the mother lode and 78 straight winning days is phenomenal, not for the faint hearted though........
(Ed: ......yes it is not for the fainthearted but by golly it does get the adrenalin going in some fashion! After this length of time I am expecting to lose a bank shortly but I won't be giving it all back :-) and I shall then simply start again)

From Les (ratings 16.2.09) Firstly, congratulations on your ratings service. I have tried many other services, both tipping and ratings, and yours is by far the the best value for money service I have encountered. The combination of good priced winners coupled with the consistency of the ratings make it a real winner. I don`t know what your secret is but keep up the good work!
(Ed: No secret really Les - just a matter of form factor weightings that keep throwing them up! I really believe that anyone could arrive at the same position if they have the time to do it properly.)

From David (ratings) 10.02.09: .......subscribing to your ratings for a week and while I find the staking plan you are using to be not for a beginner it has had me in positive territory every day............don't understand how you end up with the longer priced winners you rate as I can only see marginal reasons why you would consider them as chances.......many thanks for an excellent service
(Ed: Now if I told you that David I'd have to shoot you.....that's a joke oh so serious anti gun lobby!!!!! ..... at the end of the day David it is purely a matter of observation and it truly is a case of the little things often being more important than the what appear to be the headline factors at first glance)

From Garry (ratings) 4.2.09: I concur with Les & Ray on a great site for the punting public. Back in December I formulated a very simple betting method from information contained on the Interesting "Stuff" page and I thought I would post the results for January. Betting level stakes over the 31 days in the 3 Eastern States resulted in 118 wins from 835 selections and a return of $1007 ( a profit of $1700 @ $10 bets ).Both metropolitan & non-metropolitan tracks proved successful. Average win dividend was $8-50 with 31 x $10+ winners. I will advise February results early next month.
Congrats on your ratings service....it's tops.

From Les, (Victoria) 2.2.09:..........great website, great products--a breath of fresh air in what can be a pretty dodgy industry. Regards Les
(Ed: thanks Les)

From Ray (in general) 1.2.09:.....really good to see someone offer a sample of their product before purchase......my grandfather was a horse trainer in the 1920's on. He was able to keep the whole street in food during the depression.......I agree with you, and it seems you have suffered similarly. It's that RASH bet to try and get out of trouble.........thank you, for your site and honesty

From Steve (RaceRate ratings) 29.1.09: The way I see it, sure there is always the chance of losing the initial bank but lets say you had 2 or more banks of $1000 each. One of those banks might be lost but you should still be left with the other $1000 bank. Perhaps the betting for each bank could be staggered slightly so that they aren't both exposed to the same liabilities at the same time. This would decrease the likelihood of them both succumbing to the same losing spell. In addition, a stop loss after 5 or 6 consecutive losses could be introduced and the loss could be recouped by dividing it into the next cycle of bets. The bank might take longer to grow but this would provide some peace of mind. The only hurdle with this method would be the extra work involved with betting 2 separate banks.
(Ed: I think there are all sorts of ways you can utilise the ratings – I chose to go the way I did but it will not suit everyone as it is easy to lose – but the rewards are better if you don’t.
Agree on more than one bank – you need to get a “good start” with a new bank to make yourself less vulnerable – after nearly two months of “good start” I think I am just about in an unlosable position unless I start chasing the sub and near $3 selections which I won’t because I’ve been there before and done that!!
I have always been prepared to lose the initial $1000 bank at any time (WITHOUT REGRET) in the pursuit of this and I of course have several more $1000 banks available to me
Now I have built it up (almost enough) I will of course withdraw the initial $1000 and then just continue on – absolutely FEAR FREE and it is the “fear” that always brings you undone and gets you to start questioning the basic judgments.
At the end of the day - this is about (supposedly) having fun :-))

From David (Prime Factor) 21.1.09: BTW....Prime Factor is going "gangbusters" today. I was thinking of tweaking the system and reducing the number of bets by removing all 2nd up starters (never been too keen on them especially over 1400m)........noticed that Roy's Legacy..(in the)...Virtual Form Guide revealed he had won over 1650 and 1850 whilst today's race was 1750. If it wasn't for the fact that he was the only contender in the race, it is easy to see how you could miss a nice big priced winner ($28.20!!).

From Tony (Par Times) 20.1.09: I'd like to thank you for the par times book - its been a great help in the battle to find a winner.

From BJ, Gympie 17.1.09 (free ratings section) : ...........yesterday, took a boxed trifecta on all three races you rated.......first got up and paid nearly $700..... can't thank you enough...........been on the bones of our @@##
(Ed: Loooove good stories when things work out!)

From Cam (free greyhound system) 5.1.09: have been using your improving greyhounds method for the past 4 weeks.. and I can say that over 623 races.. I have a winning percentage of 26.95%.. With a Average Return of $3.25

I am happy to provide the data.. it has thrown up some unlikely winners including a $22 roughie @ Albion, and quite a few $10 - $13 winners..

It does skew to favourites as well.. But I have also got some stats on the dogs score (ie: 22) and its winning percentage.. I find that dogs that have scores of 36/34/26/18-8 have the highest strike rate with a score of 8 (which is only like last third only) getting up 62% of the time. I have tweaked a few of the rules after watching some races.. they are:
If the highest scoring dog is scratched, skip race.
Avoid Melbourne Metro Meetings (Sandown and The Meadows) - current SR is 7%!!
Albion and Richmond are where this works the best.. 62% SR @ Albion..

From Andy (re Oliver's comment) 31.12.08.....Oliver is on to something here. As you know I have purchased a few of your methods and it is really eerie how when one is on fire the others go to sleep but overall I have been staying well in front....... I use prime factor and counters and reversal in tandem and have had a really good go at it.....the secret seems to be to be able to have the time to follow more than one at a time.......may not work for everyone but it sure does for me .....thanks

From Warwick (Counters) 29.12.08 .........been a sensational Christmas carnival so far........keep up the good work

From Oliver (Ultimate) 22.12.08 ....... as we're approaching the end of the year thought I'd drop you an email to let you know how far I am in front using a combination of Ultimate and Prime Factor.........when one's not firing the other is so it works well in tandem.........

From innesco (Selfrate) 16.12.08 . Very fast delivery.... easy product to use.... two from two so far..........

From Steve (SelfRate) 14.12.08 ...Thanks for the fast service. I rated just 4 races at Rosehill on Saturday the 13th with success straight away.In race 3 I backed Ledger the top rated horse and it won paid $3.90 plus I got the quinella with the top 2 rated horses Ledger and Malambo which paid $2.80.
In Race 6 my top selection Zazabeau ran 2nd.
in Race 7 my top selection Circle of fame unplaced.
In race 8 my top selection Something Anything won and paid $3.60 for a win.It would have been a massive day if my second selection ran second instead of 3rd,still a profitable day . Thanks Peter.

From Nick (SelfRate) 8.12.08.......quick delivery.....good product....will buy from again

From Gazza (Ratings) 5.12.08 .... Checked your today's tips site for the first time yesterday and noted The Plate was third rated in Rockhampton race 7.....I personally know the trainer/owners so I bet $10 each way on it and paid $38-40 for a win . Thanks for the free tip
(Ed: Well done - I just love hearing these good stories instead of all the doom and gloom stuff we have thrown at us via the 6pm news every day!)

From Clem (SelfRate) 4/12/08: Manual input can be time consuming BUT it looks promising ,still testing

From Jessie (SelfRate) 27/11/08 .......very good, fast, accurate description....

From Walter (Charters Towers) 26/11/08 (Premium Runners) .. has been having an average run the last few days but good old Goldengate Bridge in Sydney at 33/1 ended that run. I see what you mean now by being patient and sticking at the one approach.........

From Gary G (25/11/08) .....as described, fast delivery, VERY happy, will purchase again

From Graeme 22/11/08: .........one test period of a month or two seems too short a time to know if a system is going to continue to produce results......
(Ed: When I started doing this as a hobby back in 1999 I used to do three month trials and well intentioned folk like yourself would send me an email and say “hey, that’s very good but why don’t you do six month trials?” And so I would. And then good folk would send me an email and say “hey, that’s very good but why don’t you do 12 month trials?” (Always with my money - lol)
And guess what? The results over 12 months were invariably about the same as after about one to two months (give or take a percent or two of p.o.t.)
The whole object of this exercise is to stop people being like most other people and betting willy nilly and instead seek an investment route that is consistent.
The randomness of sequenced events just about precludes any two people getting the same result from the same criteria which inevitably will be applied in a slightly different manner than the other. That is gospel - just how things are!
So I play with these methodologies for a while until I am satisfied that, given an even run of random events, the results are repeatable and then move on to the next method I am interested in. That’s just how I work.)

From "ararat" 19/11/08: .....received in quick time ..... as advertised .....

From Les 6/11/08 (general) Thank you for providing a website that provides good, sound advice to the average punter as well as interesting and fairly priced products---without the usual slick sales pitches we have to endure from many others. Keep up the good work!

From Wilko 29/10/08 (general) ...............great site....found it by accident. Thanks for all the free stuff - a very rare commodity these days.

From Tim 24/10/08 (Ultimate) ........having a quiet period at the moment but over the last six months I am way ahead and confident in the way it works to know it will come strong again as it has already. I never realised when I brought it from you how much it would change the way I look at the races and how much more selective I am instead of betting willy nilly.....
(Ed: Love that term willy nilly - isn't it great? Reminds me of my nanna)

From Bruce 18/10/08 (Prime Factor).................Prime Factor system picked the Caulfield Cup winner and it paid nearly $48 a win here in Victoria....just so excited had to drop you an email..... was very dubious when I did the form but WOW......hope you had lots on it too
(Ed: Ummm - no - :-( - but I am glad it saluted for you)

From Adam 13/10/08 (Raceraters 61 Systems book)...... Thanks for the fast transaction......what a fantastic book!!!....this will indeed provide hours of entertainment...

From Douggie 6/10/08 (Favourites report) ..........used the principles today and did very well. Thanks for your advice and rapid send.

From Peter, 1/10/08 (Adventist): ...............having a terrific run with it and funnily enough I am now getting scared it will stop? What are the chances of a long losing run?
Ed: Peter, if you look at the test period work out I sent you will notice the longest run of outs during the month is 10. That is bound to be repeated if not lengthened (!!) in the future but looking at your figures you are so far in front now that IF, repeat IF, you stayed at your current flat stake bet level it is hard to see you could face financial armageddon - depends how nice you have been to the gambling gods I guess and how patient you are. Glad you are having fun!

From Archie, 20/9/08 (Ultimate): ..........so I am well in front of the purchase price outlaid but even more importantly it has made me completely revise the way I have been looking at form for decades, losing decades I might point out (lol) so thanks a million for that

From Terry, 14/9/08 (Ultimate): First day with ultimate. Used set and forget, 31 each way bets @ $5 = $155 return $300-05. Included $19 and $39 winners. Not bad for an old bloke.
Ed: I'd say not bad for a young bloke too! Glad you're having fun!!

From [name withheld], 11/9/08 (General): ......do you think its at all possible to make a living from this system? If so what kind of bank would one need to make around $1000 or two per week? I always think to my self it can be done but I have never worked it out! Can you give me some pointers please mate? What system would you think would suit me, a simple bloke that does not know all that much about racing.

Ed (I get many emails in a similar vein): Well, where does one start? (name), it scares me that you think you would like to make a living out of racing when in your own words you write "me, a simple bloke that does not know all that much about racing".

I know nothing about the share market and hence would never attempt to scratch out a living trading on that without first making a very very very long study out of the hows, whens and whys of that particular beast. You have to really know it to do it or you will go broke trying! Read as much as you can for as long as you can before you even attempt what you are contemplating - many have tried before and all but an infinitesimal number have succeeded - and that was mostly through luck.

I do have an acquaintance who has made an average of over $1000 a week from racing over the last 12 months BUT and here is a big BUT, he uses a permanent bank of $20000 and bets in $100 units - that is - half of one percent of his bank per bet. Now he averages, and that is a very important word, averages, about 26% winners (very high) whose prices average around $5. (4/1) He only bets level stakes - NEVER chases losses (bookies love people that chase) - so over a period of 100 bets he averages 26 winners that return him 130 units - and he does that day in and day out, 7 days a week, week in and week out, finds it boring in the extreme but in his own words "no one else will give me a job because I'm too old"

Now I don’t know your circumstances but he uses a standing bank of $20000 which is way out there for me and, importantly, is mentally prepared to lose the lot - which again is way out there for me!! He is tied to his computer for 6 to 7 hours a day, 7 days a week and hates it but doesn't know what else to do. But he has his method that he is happy with and is DISCIPLINED enough to carry it through - again - day in, day out - no switching - no being tempted to change - no madly jumping from one scheme to another, from win betting to place betting to trifecta betting. He just bets the same every bet. And remember - he anticipates losing 74 times out of every 100 bets he makes!!

Now I don’t have the mental discipline to do what he does which is why I don't do it - I find it boring in the extreme (I get distracted easily) - and what I have found is that excitement equals risk equals losing. Read that again - excitement equals risk equals losing.Be smart and start with a bank of $200 and find a methodology you are happy with and bet in $1 units - IF you can turn that $200 in to $300 up the units to $1.50 - when it gets to $400 - up the ante to $2 and so on
If this doesn't bore you to death you may just have the psychological make up to make a success of it but VERY few people have that mentally tough approach (or patience).Importantly, you HAVE to have ultimate faith in the methodology you are using and be very comfortable with it - no faith, no future!

Hope you find the method you are happy with and find this information useful

From Adam, 5/9/08, (Ultimate): Hello mate, Thanks for the fast transaction...still pinching myself over the fact that ive found someone out there willing to share information at a very reasonable rate... Thanks for the great work..karma will be good to u for sure...
Ed: Thanks for kind words Adam - karma is just great at the moment :-)

From Moffy, 22/8/08, (Favourites Report):.....emailed within 30 minutes and correctly/completely as described -cheers

FromRussell, Alexandra Headland (11/8/08) (Reflections): ......far exceeds my expectations.....well done

From Bill (8/8/08) (Adventist): First day using Adventist yesterday. Two $4+ winners and a second from five bets. It has paid for itself already.

From Alan,(7/8/08) (Reflections):............three selections yesterday .... nice $13 winner at Belmont

From John, Irvington, New Jersey (2/8/08) Eliminator: ........Eliminator, shows promise with 22/61 or 35%........profit about 21%......only two or three plays a day

From Andrew, Adelaide (27/7/08) (Prime Factor): ......got the rules yesterday morning so tried it out on the Queensland meeting ......goodness, two selections, two wins.........very impressed at the value for money..... thank you

From Greg (14/7/08) (SelfRate): Thanks, the download went well and the programme has been running fine............. I have test rated about 12 races at venues ranging from Mildura to the mainstream metro meetings last Saturday. The results have been encouraging with a good % of top selections winning at backable prices and a couple of false favourites identified.......it looks a good usable tool and value for money, so thanks very much.

From Kate (4/7/08) (general) - must say I find your site very refreshing & up to date. Having looked at a few racing systems, it is a relief to find a site that doesn't use corny selling techniques or get you in with promises of financial grandeur. You just stick to the facts & your current data speaks for itself without the bull. In fact, if anything you probably down play the success.
Ed: Thanks for the kind words Kate - I hope your observation is true - if it is it is because we are not trying to make a grand living out of this site - (in fact our ratio of winnings to site earnings in the 07/08 financal year is about 13 to 1 having just done the much hated and time consuming tax return!!) - it is just stuff we are interested in

From Tony (30/6/08) (Par Times): ......thank you very much... it's a pleasure to deal with you.

From Chris (27/6/08) (Reversal): After purchasing Reversal this morning I went through and did my selections. My first pick was Pt Macquarie, Race 4, 3 Blinkin Quick and it won at $8.30. How good is that!! First pick on a longshot system and I get a huge win!!! How exciting is that! Thank you!!
(Ed: Stay sane Chris :-) - caution at all times - I know - I AM boring)

From Hennessy (26/6/08) (Back One): ......just too easy...

From Bill (26/6/08): A quick note to congratulate you on your Quick Picks for yesterday (25 June). After discarding tracks rated worse than dead, you had seven selections for five winners and a second. Well done!

From Bobby (26/6/08): I must congratulate all concerned on a great "punter friendly" website
(Ed: Thanks Bobby - you know we get lots and lots of simply "nice" letters from good people like you and we reply personally to them all but if we put all of them on this site it would take ages for your web browser to load the page! Suffice to say we do appreciate your good thoughts - it is interesting to have seen how this site started off as a reasonable idea and has grown and is still growing into a really nice thing to be associated with - something I enjoy doing that is not really a task at all - thanks to you all)

From Craig (24/6/08) (Counters): I purchased the Counters system about a month ago and it has found some good winners thus far. Keep up the good work!

From Gordon (14/6/08) (Counters): Well done Peter, Today I only used the selections from the counters system I purchased 2 days ago......Today I had 14 selections and had 4 wins the return was around $63 in dividens. Thankyou
Gordon

From Karen (1/6/08) (Favourites Report): ....very good information that you obviously spent a lot of time researching...... I focussed on Dubbo this afternoon and using using our research it was very obvious why Zelta Glow was a good bet and why Kelectron was a good lay. Thank you. My betfair account thanks you!

From Alby (29/5/08) (Par Times): I purchased your par times book late last year and Ithought l would just like to let you know how helpful it is.
lt is put together very well and l find so good when l'm doing the form on races.Keep up the great work !!

From Graham (29/5/08): Good site Peter.After 15 years I have learned something more. All the best

From Paul (20/5/08) (Prime Factor): ........what I liked about yours was rules D and E which sets yours apart from the others........ thanks for two great sites

From Armstrong (14/5/08) (Back One) .....good plan....prompt delivery

FromLawrence, Broome (9/5/08) ...........don't often write to say thanks but your efforts with the free tips section of your website are outstanding ...... many thanks

From Phaegyl (1/5/08) (Back One) ..........accurate in description - happy with purchase............(thanks)

From Dave, Kiama (3/5/08): (Prime Factor) ...........this afternoon got $22 about Helideck on Betfair in the Gold Coast race which makes the sub $20 charge for this look rather silly..........great.........thanks

From Maggie 26/4/08 (Prime Factor): ..........I said I would let you know after the first month how it was going and I am happy to say I am several hundreds of dollars in front ............. first time I have consistently won .......thanks a lot
(Ed: Maggie I am concerned you also metioned increasing your stake size. Do another two months at your current level before going there)

From Bert 25/4/08 (Free Tips): ............first time I have ever backed a 40/1 winner......can hardly wait for tomorrow
(Ed: Bert. 40/1 winners are a fluke and happen very rarely but I am glad you backed it - don't count on it happening again for a while!!!!!!)

From Lee, 6/4/08, (Hot Start):.......like most typical mug punter I expect instant success and am not prepared to persist with any plan....... the $23 winner at Sale today.......well done
(Ed: Glad you stuck - most things work .........if you lt them)

From Ben, Parramatta (3/4/08) (Bullets) ........used Bullets today at Ascot and it was great.The only three selected got me the race 4 trifecta paid $106 and I used those three and the field in the first four paid over $750. Just a great day that I wouldn't have had otherwise...........thank you. Ben
(Ed: You're welcome)

From Darcy, Tugun (2/4/08) (Bullets): ....as you know I purchased Bullets from you this morning.....first race I got to try it on was the 6th at Newcastle, such a standout I had a lazy 100 on it and it paid $3 here on Qld TAB. I must say it makes the $19.95 you charge look very little indeed...... fresh seafood tonight (laughing). Thanks a lot.
(Ed: Yum - save me a mud crab Darcy)

From George,USA, (26/3/08) (Eliminator): ...great job with this one peter. Ten plays last Saturday getting four winners and four placings. Betting $10 to win and $20 to place on each of the ten slections added up to a net profit of $407.00. The highest payoff was a $26.00 winner at Tampa Downs in Florida.
(Ed: great to know it works well in USA as well George!!)

From Peter (20/3/08) (Prime Factor): TO DEAN (as below)As promised, I had time to play with this old favourite of mine yesterday afternoon 19th March 2008 in response to your message of the 17th. Here are the results:
Rockhampton Race 2 - 5 - It's Our Nediym - Won 2.70
Rockhampton Race 7 - 9 - Admiral's Amante - unp
Rockhampton Race 8 - 9 - Our General - unp
Hawkesbury Race 6 - 3 Walking Or Dancing - Won 3.40
Hawkesbury Race 7 - 7 Smokin' Jewel - unp
Ballarat Race 5 - 4 Mistry - unp
Ballarat Race 6 - 2 Masterten - unp
Ballarat Race 7 - 1 - Redwood Park - 2nd
Ballarat Race 8 - 20 Honour Winna Won - $19.10

Nett for day was 9 units out, 25.6 units in with a nett return of 16.9 units or 187.77% profit on turnover at level stakes.

From Dean (17/3/08): (Prime Factor):Over about 5 days (pretty close to continuous) i would have had (and did have about half) a total of 47bets with only 3 winners..........paid $1.80, $2.90 & $2.10 all short as well.......the system is currently on a 38 bet losing streak.(Ed: Wow - Dean - 38 in a row - the worst I ever managed with that was 18 (twice) but I have not been tracking it lately though I notice on very quick inspection it picked the Cup winner at Armidale at $4.80 yesterday- will do a larger sample from today to check the methodology again get back to you. These things are sent to try us all sometimes)

From Phil (13/3/08): ........no hassels and received it within 30 minutes of purchase ......

From Mick (12/3/08) : Thanks for the Par Race Times........I did (2) races on past results for Saturday 01-03-08 in caulfield- Race 2 and Race 3.... Race two-Won byCascade Now was FIRST pick (Rating of 103.87,( using Friday Courier Mail Form Guide) and paid $33.30 a win.First 4 was in first 5 horses and paid $2,893.00 in Qld.Race 3 Won by Hardwar was also FIRST pick ( Rating of 146.81 , paid about $4.60 a win.........many Thanks again for everything

From Duncan (1/3/08) (System Choice): I don't know how much feedback you get from your downloads but I'd like to say I'm impressed with what you do, appreciate it and think the vast majority of your comments are spot on. Personally, I'm a greyhound punter (very selective) but I'm interested in new ideas and information about the whole game, well done and thanks,

From Peter (28/2/08) (System Choice): .....I'd like to thank you for sending me the System Choice Newsletters for January and February, particularly for the sytems you have listed which are proving to be quite promising. I've been concentrating recently on The Provincial Plan, Power Winners and Four Score Systems, which are all providing regular winners and what looks to be a good number of placings with a higher average payout than I have been used to previously.

From Barry (24/2/08) (Selfrate): .......downloaded fine and was successful on the first day so I can't really ask for more............

From Marissa: (19/02/08):.....very happy with your thinking behind prime factors and self rate also hope there is more feed back with your free method.

From Chris (18/2/08) (Prime Factor): .......I ended up being extremely cautious and betting $5 a win each selection, being 0.5% of my starting bank.
I won $27.45 which is 2.7% Interest in 1 day which is......... far superior to any bank or financial institution

From Ross (16/2/08): (Hot Start): ....started using it yesterday and started with Broken Link at Tamworth that paid over $15 ..... had $20 on it ..... well thats paid for that then ... thanks

From DEJ (16/2/08) (Par Times): .......looks good - thanks

From Lochie (14/2/08): (Aussie Greyhound Gold) Great, very easy to use. A++++ Seller

From "OldYeller" (13/2/08) (Premium Runners): Excellent product! Fast service. Outstanding seller! Highly recommended!

From Mick (11/2/08): (Magic Maidens): ..........very interesting and logical method......... already in front.....now need to stay there (grinning)

From Sheridan, NT (6/2/08) (Pure Class) : Thanks for your patience about my questions ...... it is now working fine ...... thanks again

From Alan, Vic (4/2/08): (Pure Class)....really interesting approach ...... steady profit since I bought it but no spectacular results which i am glad to see it was as yu described ...... use this email if you wish in your feed back section

From Pat (1/2/08): Terrific service, fast delivery and a pleasure to deal with, thanks so much!

From Darrin: 26/1/08): I’m still in the middle of trialing both selfrate and m260 along side my own process and it looks very promising I have done at the moment 390 races (live and on file) and have a very impressive 45% win strike from 320 selections in 1 pick !!!

From Ryan, S.A. (21/01/08): ........had the best day on Sunday......no idea how you pick the eliminator selections and don't care........ just winner after winner....many many dollars in front. Simply thank you.

From Peter H (Par Times) (15/01/08)Thanks very much for the above. As I thought it is sensational value. I mentioned that I was using the speed ratings from (Ed: other provider) web site for quality control purposes against my selections based on an in depth analysis of form factors, class and pace ratings............... I have subsequently been making other checks and I have to tell you that I will only rely on my own speed ratings in future based on your pars (only in sprints of course and only as a final quality control filter).

From Darrin, Vic (14/1/08) : Just spent the last few hrs looking around your site , and have to say that it is one of the best sites on racing I have seen, believe me I have been on the punt for at least 20 years (still trying to get that perfect system) have had my wins and losses like many out there and have brought my fair share of dodgy systems. It is refreshing to see a site that’s not full of crap promising the world of fame and fortune then taking people’s money and running.
(Ed: Thanks Darrin we try)

From Bill & Meredith (14/1/08): I am using "prime factor",and happy with its performance although i have been a bit slack and not used it as often as i should.

From Jerry (12/1/08): I am interested in receiving the Method 260 to view. Found some interesting methods on your website

From mac (7/1/08): I like your web site, well done

From Rosey & Johnny (6/1/08): Thanks for the interesting read and analyses! Like most, we've tried various systems and have had some success, but for some reason, particularly over the 'silly season', it's gone out the window. I guess that certain meetings should also factor in and be a 'no bet zone'?

From Bill (5/1/08): Thanks for all the Good work you do on this Site.By the Way Race Rate which I purchased is the best buy that I have had anything to do with. Have got my Money back with it Tenfold. Best Regards

From Paul G, Vic:(24/12/07) .....been punting many a year. Self Rate is great value for the price and content. No wonder it is working well here and overseas ...... thanks for a great site with so many free articles ....

From "Seahunts" (20/12/07): (Aussie Greyhound Gold): ...great deal....

From JMC (16/12/07) (Dog Busters): .....excellent

From Charles, (16/12/07): .... I've been using Prime Factor for 2 weeks now, and it's interesting to look at the running Win S/R........I've currently had 169 bets, and it's holding pretty steady at around 20%......find it interesting that the average win div is $4.36, similar to what you found in your Winners Price Staking Plan, $4.70 after 250 winning bets

From Kreed, Darwin (15/12.07): Thanks for the greyhound gold its going great!

From Matt, Penrith (11/12/07): .....my copy of Par Times arrived yesterday and I must say I was very impressed with the publication.............

From Charles, (9/12/07): ...just thought I'd let you know, I put all of your highest rating Free Tips for Saturday 8th December on for a win, and the first & second highest rating tips on for quinellas. They netted me a cool $57.80 (Ascot Race 6 Pure Black & Russian Playmate). Outlay $14.00, Return $71.80 Keep up the good work!
(Ed: Please remember Charles - we are only TESTING this methodology!!)

From Alwyn, Gold Coast (8/12/07):.......two more good priced winners from 4 runners again last night at MV with your freebie tips ........when are you going to start selling this so I can get the rules(Ed:Whoa - steady on Alwyn (lol!!!) - a long way to go in the testing yet but I agree it is showing promise - patience, my boy, patience :-)

From "hynam" (7/12/07) (prime factor) .....nice plan

From Charles (7/12/07): ......I've been running with Prime Factor for a few days now, and I'm going fine...............

From Bill (7/12/07): ......Came across RaceRate web site by fluke and you know , it has been the best fluke for me for a long time.......it's refreshing to read that not every thing spins around the almighty dollar

From Alan, Nowra (3/12/07): Hi Peter. I see it is now one year since I started using your selfRate and I am hapy to report it is going just as strongly as the first day I started using it - picked the right day to start I guess, lol. From my initial investment I can tell you my TAB account has grown to over $7000 from next to nothing and I am not a big punter. Thanks very very much. You will never know how my race day afternoons have changed for the better and how much better it is to win a bit rather than lose all the time..........
(Ed: Good on you Alan - I am pleased to hear it has been good for you. Stay cool though - no rushes of blood to the head!!!!)

From Clint (2/12/07): (SelfRate) Excellent A+++ Top product, keep this quiet, it's a winner!

From Alwyn, Gold Coast (1/12/07): Your four free tips ALL got up today ..... Famous Roman in Perth paid $23 here in Queensland ......unbelievable
(Ed: Good on you Alwyn. We had a great day too as we are currently testing the Pure Class system. Our day was $200 outlay and $1840 return but this is not a common result so be warned- Sunday will very probably NOT be the same!!! Sad but true :-( )

From Charles (30/11/07): .......had a look around on your website, & I'm impressed with what you have put together........You have obviously put a lot of time & effort into your systems, and analysing all those race results!

From "tpundercrown" (27/11/07): (Aussie Greyhound Gold)...... An excellent package. Very good delivery time also.

From Geoff, Devon U.K. (21/11/07): just got HOME from work. Followed your instructions to the T. Installed and up and working! Thanks for your help, support and advice

From Kevin, Daisy Hill : (AustralianPar Times) ....looks well worth having....

From Thom, U.S.A. (14/11/07): I want to let you know first that you have a great website . . . lots of great information..........

From Terri, Mooroolbark (13/11/07):..........bought Premium Runners just over a month ago...........only a small punter but I am already over $500 up on my starting position which is a rate of return I have never been able to consistently achieve before and am now thinking of increasing my base unit..........
(Ed: "Warning Will Robinson, warning, warning!!!" A great memory line from Lost In Space that often springs to mind, Terri - I'd stick at my current level for another month and then see how you feel about it)

From Glynn, (13/11/07): The rules for dog Buster are very simple and have been selecting some great wins and places in the few days..............

From Chas, Hobart (4/11/07): ........superfast service - thanks

FromMax, WA (29/10/07): Wow ! Beautifully laid out, attractively presented and written in clear, unambiguous, grammatically correct English. How refreshing in these days of abysmal standards of written communication. Well done ! And how refreshingly honest, too. I chuckled in several places.
(Ed: Thanks for the kind words Max)

From Josh (25/10/07): ....It is interesting reading and testing out the strategies then looking at the races to see how it goes.

From Kevin, Clontarf (24/10/07): ..............received SelfRate a few days ago and it has paid for itself already three times over............very professional service

From Todd (17/10/07): Great item, quick to send

From Paul (13/10/07): Item received fast and a good system

From Gordon, Moorabbin (11/10/07): ....thank you for all the free stuff......I must admit I have been only at this game for 18 months but am working hard and learning heaps. There are so many shonky sites and material out there. Given your excellent results I am a little suss on some of your figures because they do seem too successful. Also looking at the Self Rate screen shot I would be surprised that these factors only could produce such good results. All that said I do have a degree of trust given the intelligent content of much of the other material on the site and you being in Tasmania. Any comment to alleviate my concerns I would appreciate.....could you steer me one way or the other on Self Rate versus Prime Factor
(Ed: Thanks for the overnight e-mail – what an interesting letter – you accidentally raise a few points about all sorts of marketing issues that have interested me for some time.I have just read your e-mail to my wife who helps me in many ways with this – please don’t take this the wrong way – we both think your comment about Tasmania is very interesting. Does being in Tasmania make us more trustworthy? As I mix in a variety of circles, can I tell you that the % of shonkies and snake oil salesman is about the same here as anywhere else I have ever lived – what is the saying – only the names have been changed……..As you rightly point out there are a lot of shonky sites and material out there and I really don’t know what I could possibly write in an e-mail that would allay your concerns – after all, if I was one of the shonky sites would I not have the patter “down pat” to reply to an email such as yours in order to get your $$$ off you anyway despite your concerns? Interesting questions aren’t they?At the end of the day, the figures on the site are exactly what happened in that period of time that the test was undertaken – nothing more – nothing less. If I had started these tests one day earlier or finished ten days later, the results by their very nature MUST be different. In reality, the gambling game is like an endless conveyor belt with different people who have different temperaments getting on and off at different places and while they may be on the same conveyor belt using the same methodologies, they MUST experience different results BECAUSE of their point of embarkation and departure. No two people using anything they purchase from me can possibly have the same results.Interesting concept isn’t it?At the time of writing this, one of the many systems I am testing I have named Premium Runners – after nearly a month and 293 races operating mostly in Victoria alone (because of the EI dramas) – it is showing a strike rate of around 26% and a level stakes profit on turnover of over 38% - yes, I am making good money from this at the moment – but what if I had started it a week earlier? What if EI had never arrived in Australia and I had been able to operate in all States? Would the overall result be the same? Probably yes but I will NEVER know. (I should also point out that three other systems I am testing at the moment are wiping out the profit from the other quite nicely thanks very much, gambling Gods!!!)To your question on SelfRate VS Prime Factor …. well they are both quite different products – Prime Factor is for “give me lots of action real quick with little time investment” and SelfRate is for people who have much more time to stop and closely look at things race by race. I guess you have to decide which one sounds most like you as only you can know that. The best advice I can give anyone in relation to gambling on horse racing is this – if it stops being fun – walk away.

From Roger, Gawler (8/10/07): .......for the free tips everyday - today's were great and I only bet for a place.........please keep these premiium runners tips coming
(Ed: Thanks Roger - yes they are going quite well but the test period has some way to go)

From Michael, Townsville (4/10/07): ........(SelfRate) ...is not the cheapest program of this type getting around and is certainly a very long way from the most expensive but by golly it is consistent. One question: why can't you do the races the night before and then save them to a file to review after scratchings?
(Ed: Thanks for the kind words Michael. We are working towards that but it's a case of just a few million lines of computer code between us and the ultimate goal (!!) We just save them to hard copy and adjust for scratchings the next morning - we realise FULLY that that is NOT the ideal way to use the programme and does not provide for the very MAXIMUM accuracy but we find that what we miss on the swings we pick up on the carousel, so to speak - it's just that time is always on the wing round this joint and we don't always have the time to spare on race mornings!!)

From Lorelle, Seymour (3/10/07): ..........(SelfRate) arrived much sooner than I expected and very well packaged......... Barry was "playing" with it today and we had a very good afternoon at the local races so thanks very much

From "Sirtimmy" (27/9/07): ......(Prime Factor) ....good system - all ok

From Leon (27/9/07): ........(Prime Factor) .... I think your sample needs to be larger say 4000 instead of 400

From Brendan, NZ (25/9/07): . (Self Rate) .....I like doing the pick 6 in New Zealand racing on a Saturday so the pprogram is a vital tool for me. I haven't managed the 6 winners yet but go close each week with 4 or 5 winners and the ones I miss normally get 2nd or 3rds so hopefully strike it soon

From Andy, Broken Hill 23/9/07: .........(Prime Factor) ...with Gabbidon at 33/1 it paid for the system about six times over. LOL. Thanks very much.
(Ed: Good news all round Andy - I don't think any of us missed it)

From David, Double View (22/9/07): .....Great day today!! How about Gabbidon? I got $36.80 on centretote.

From Paul, New Zealand (22/9/07) ....... had no troubles at all downloading it, so am all set to go. Thanks for your help.

From Wayne, Gold Coast (17/9/07): ......using Selfrate all through this year and it is going just as well now as when I first bought it so congratulations on a worthwhile product..........punting seven days a week it gives us "oldies" here in God's waiting room a bit of interest..........
Ed: Lovely to hear from you again Wayne - glad things are going well

From Leon (13/9/07): a good day today, 3 winners

From Chris (11/9/07): (Australian Par Times) ...a fantastic product for speed ratings

From Tony Gympie (11/9/07): ......bought your Prime Factor 6 days ago..... cannot believe that for all these years that I have been looking at form guides that I never saw it before or put it together....thanks

From Allison, Canterbury (6/9/07).......my partner and I bought your Self Rate programme a month or so back. This is a really filthy product. We have never had so many winners day after day......
Ed: Thanks - I think!!

From "gameo2" (ebay) (4/9/07): ...fast delivery, great communication, highly recommended

From Chad (31/8/07): Long time since we have spoken, I purchased the GreyHound Gold….. doing very well with it actually so thanks for the info! Just curious mate, what happened to the Tasmanian Racing Ratings that used to be offered as a free gesture on your site ?
(Ed: I just wasn't happy with the strike rate of the methodology so have dropped them - as much as I enjoyed doing them, decisions had to be made _ I didn't want to cost people money with them when they were an experimental idea)

From Cathy (27/8/07): great service, very quick with posting

From William, Dungay(14/8/07): Thank you very much for your help with the download. Here's hoping for some success (and fun).
(Ed: A timely reminder William that it IS supposed to be fun!!!!!!)

From Wayne, Sterling (10/8/07) ......haven't backed as many winners between $7 and $12 in my life..........thank you for being so matter of fact

From Robert (7/8/07) Thank you for a fast and professional transaction. 5 star serviceFrom "Cartroman" (2/8/07) great - now I can have a strategy

From Lyn, Rockhampton (2/8/07): ........since getting it (SelfRate) I have been having a great deal of success especially at the non TAB meetings here in CQ. In fact, so much so, I have started selling my work out "tip" sheets to other locals at these non TAB meetings. My partner suggested I should check with you regarding copyright. What are your thoughts on this please?
(Ed: Lyn, I am glad you are having success with SelfRate. As far I can see and am concerned, if it is your local work at non TAB meetings that is generating the tip sheets, please feel free to use them however you wish)From John, Horsham (20/7/07): ........download I got unpacked perfectly without any hassles and I used it yesterday. All I can say is "wow". Thanks

From Jim, Parkinson (19/07/07): thank you for the quick service From Andy, (17/07/07): Supa Fast delivery product as described, thanking you no hassles as al

lFrom Alyssa, Brisbane (15/7/07): ..........could not understand how Vain Ali was your top rated horse in your Tasmanian section but, as my partner often says, hey, what would I know? It paid over $18.00 on the Qld TAB. Thanks a lot.
(Ed: No worries Alyssa - yes it was a good result. Didn't quite pay that here in Tassie)

From Alan, St Kilda (10/7/07): Been meaning to tell you the Saturday before last, I boxed your Tasmanian trifecta selections all day. 4th of the day paid $2119. Thanks.
(Ed: Great when they work like that Alan - the next paid over $400 here too - but why don't they work every week - then none of us would ever have to work????)

From Brett, Mornington (8/7/07): ..........apart from all that, I must admit the Self Rate selections continue to be very sound and my strike rate continues to be very impressive

From David, W.A. (2/7/07): Had a lot of fun last night with the information from the greyhound gold. Out $43 In $104.50 including a $32.40 winner!! Thanks Peter - fantastic service!!

From Terry, W.A. (25/6/07): a very interesting program (especially on Saturday when I got an Exacta for $268.00 in Perth)

From Greg, (24/6/07): very good thanks for being efficient

From Alan, Cairns (14/6/07): .......trying out the Simple Mathematics system on your free systems page with a great deal of success ... keeping a running tally so will let you know .... why aren't you charging for this system?

From Alex, Melbourne (11/6/07): (SelfRate) is performing way better than what I imagined it would with stacks of quinellas in the last couple of weeks. I have used it in conjunction with a quinellas staking plan that I rather like and I am over $1600 up in the last month. Would you like a copy of my staking method?
(Ed: Is it an election year? Sure would Alex. If I can put it on the site for all to share, I'd be delighted to credit you with it too. Let me know.)

From Sonya, Melbourne (3/6/07): you may remember I purchased the greyhound program? The percentages are very interesting and so far I have had a good run from it and made a little money by betting the same amount on on each race, I am now going to try a staking plan that a friend of mine uses.......
(Ed: Good to hear Sonya but try the progression plan out on paper before you use real money)

From MIke, N.T. (30/5/07): I am very happy with this software but ..............I really don't understand why you are selling it at this ridiculously cheap price ..........
(Ed: You can only wear one shirt at a time Mike - glad you are getting enjoyment from it)

From Chris, S.A. (30/5/07): I've been using the program and am enjoying it.

From Roland (26/5/07): I was very impressed with the honesty shown on your web site. I am sure you are aware that there's lots of spam out there promising mighty riches for no risk or effort. What I want is something that can demonstrate a reasonable chance of succeeding and growing with some fun thrown in
(Ed: Hope you've found it Roland !! )

From Geoff, Bendigo (24/5/07): I know - twice in three weeks but REALLY - Groundhog Day???? - Bumps In The Night again at 25/1 - unreal

From true_blitz (22/5/07): Excellent service. A smooth and problem free transaction

From Peter (19/5/07): 3 meetings - 3 wins

From Michael (8/5/07): Hi Peter, I can't get over how this program is so left wing. I had a practice run 2 weeks ago and it picked an $18.00 winner. The day was 300% POT and, disgusting, I didn’t have one bet that day. Last Saturday I backed Adelaide, Melb, Gold Coast, Sydney and had a small bet and made 56% Profit on turnover. What I find hard to believe is its throwing up longer priced winners. Normally I hate to bet anything longer than 10-1. My old betting program use to always aim towards the short priced winners, assuming 86% of horses win under the odds of ten to one. As I haven't much experience with your program, is this generally the case because I would like to know if you have followed any city meetings or only operate in the country meetings. I have a feeling I can improve my strike if I take only horses that are 15-1 or less those over should get crossed out for the next rated until there is a rated horse under 15-1. If you get a chance I would look forward to any comments otherwise it’s a great program and after time hope to prove it to be consistent with its strike rate
(Ed: I must say I never knock back a long priced winner – longer the better!! (lol) I think because the programme takes all emotional involvement out of the equation you get longer priced winners than what you may be used to and, as you know, price is not a factor in any of the decision making process. In all honesty though when I am punting on it, if the selection is showing $30 or $40 a win, I tend towards betting a 1 / 4 split – in other words, if my betting unit at the time was $10 it would be $10 a win and $40 a place – but this is because I am very conservative to the point of tedium - I see nothing wrong with $6 a place – does me very nicely. This love of place betting on longer priced horses dates back to a horse called Pirate Bird (in the 1960’s it must have been) but that is another whole chapter!!I know that longer prices worry people sometimes – guess it’s just what you are used to – but at $8 and $10, you don’t have to back a huge % of winners to stay in front of the game – I know that flies in the face of conventional (repetitive!!) thinking but – hey – suits me fine – you never make a quid betting with the herd.City or country tracks make no difference to me . However, having said all that, it is, as always, your choice what you do with the results the programme gives you so whatever path you choose, enjoy!!! )

From John N (5/05/07): Hi, I spend lots of dollars buying systems that (do) not work and you have it here in Aussie for free . I came on by accident and love looking through the simple things you need to know about gambling. I'll be seeing you later.

From Leonardo (11/05/07): prompts transaction and delivery

From Geoff, Bendigo (2/5/07): Hi. I had to drop you an e-mail and I'm still shaking, can hardly type. Thanks for your Tasmanian ratings. WOW. 25/1 Bumps In The Night I thought it must have been a typo when I saw you had it top rated.The biggest win I've had in two years. Please keep publishing these. You are a star!!!!
(Ed: Thanks Geoff - yes, we had a few bob on it too because we couldn't believe the price either. Pity we can't do it every week - oh well.)

From Michael, (29/4/07): Hi Peter,I had a test run on Saturday and spent most of it rating 2 tracks and got incredible results........unfortunately I never backed any.... the program seems as if it will get the same strike rate I had years ago which will be great as I use to run into more grey areas when I calculated ratings manually...thanks again

From Carl, Waikato, NZ (28/4/07): I had also purchased the Self Rate Software. (I haven't used it for real yet - but I have used it on paper and for small fields and for place bets only - its been100% strike rate. I'm very pleased with the program needless to say. So thanks once again.
(Ed: Great news Carl - one guarantee I can make however - the strike rate won't last!!!!)

From Tony, Launceston (28/4/07): Just another quick question - why do you bother to test these things publicly?
(Ed: Tony - I thought it might be interesting for people to see something actually being tested and maybe follow it through to its conclusion - one way or the other - a few work - most don't!!)

From Safenet (Ebay) (28/4/07): Excellent quick service true to description and good produc

tFrom Chad(24/4/07): File downloading now, no problems there, thank you for your prompt service

From Tony, Launceston (22/4/07): Your Tasmanian performance ratings are okay - but instead of backing them outright I've been taking boxed trifectas - do you realise how many have saluted in the last few weeks? (Ed: Hi Tony - yes we have seen that but that's not what is supposed to happen - lol -it's not what we're testing for)

From Karl, Meadowbrook (19/4/07): Thanks for the Race Raters disk - it is very well researched - congratulations on putting out a good product instead of the usual rubbish

From Angus, Bunbury, (15/4/07): SelfRate is working very well for me on WA races - thanks - by the way, the freebie info on your web site is absolutely great!

From Buff, (10/4/07): Very happy with transaction, great product

From Louise (6/4/07): Hi Peter. Got the download okay yesterday. I can see why you are so thingy about the class aspect. Had a terrific afternoon today. Just thought I'd let you know.

From Rocco, (3/4/07): Perfect! Nice seller, excellent merchandise. Thanks and A++!

From Terry, Augusta, WA (26/3/07): The SelfRate Program is very interesting. Since I received the download last week - It has been very good. Received 3 Trifectas and around 5 Exactas so far.

From Grali7 (18/03/07): Good delivery time, arrived safely, haven't tried it out yet, will do soon, thanks

From Tom, USA (6/3/07): Super fast ship from down under, thanks

From Brendan, New Zealand (2/3/07): Thanks for all the help Peter, you have been a champion

From Bill, Ebay (1/3/07): Communication excellent, product best of its type I have seen, AAA

From Evelyn (1/3/07): Great Communication, Extra Speedy Delivery, Fab packaging Highly recommend

From Mario (Highfield) 28/02/07: Congratulations on the great website. Is really progressing nicely with a lot of interesting material starting to appear.

From Melinda, Inala (16/2/07): Your web site is very informative - keep up the good work

From Derwent Jack, (12/2/07): Arrived on time and in perfect condition A+

From Branda[??] Internet (10/2/07): This is just a query from an interested party. Why would I buy anything when there's so much stuff on your web site for free? Just interested.
(Ed: Hi. We do our own independent development of systems and staking plans but have a huge catalogue of systems that we have collected and written over the years that we will never test as there are only so many hours in a day. LIke most people that visit this site, we love punting and what we do and love sharing things. We only charge people for things we believe work, after we extensively test the stuff and charge to pay for our time in doing so. Hope that explains)

From Gary, Hobart (6/2/07): Hi Peter .... great first week, already paid for the programme. Just hope it continues.

From HOMEpromote (2/2/07): Fast delivery and really good systems. Thanks.

From David, Moe (31/1/07): I don't want to buy anything at the minute but I did want to say thanks a lot for all the free systems on your site and good information.
(Ed: It's a pleasure David - I like putting up the free stuff - everything can't be take take take - if we all took all of the time there'd be nothing left to share!!)

From Ella of Kangaroo Island 28/1/07): I bought Greyhound Gold not expecting too much but am really surprised by the number of winners that keep saluting...... please put this on your feedback section - this guy is fair dinkum. Thanks.
(Ed: And thanks to you Ella for your thoughts - I have replied to you privately on the trots "matter")

From Joe of Victoria (21/1/07): I also just want to say that one of the reasons I bought "Selfrate" was that on your website it explained what it was and what is wasn't. You didn't make any outlandish statements or promised riches beyond my dreams and you backed it up by trailing the system yourself and providing the results for all to see. I have bought horse racing systems that promised you wealth beyond your dreams and to be fair to some of those systems I didn't stick to them long enough but the others I did stick to them but ending up losing countless banks. Also, I enjoy your website and all the information it contains especially "The Golden Rules For Pleasurable Punting". Once again thanks Peter and I will let you know how it comes down the track.
(Ed: Thanks for the kind words Joe - we try to make this site completely open and accountable and we make no wild claims about any of our "paid" products. Those Golden Rules Of Pleasurable Punting are the result of many years of sometimes not too pleasant experiences. One I didn't mention was "If you can get on "on the nod", don't". And thereby hangs a tale for another day. At the end of it all, we're all just trying to back a winner!)

From Darryl - Evandale (25/1/07): Great software - I've started winning for a change

From Marolyn - Cessnock (23/1/07): ........easy to understand but takes a little longer than I first thought it might to arrive at a final selection. However, it seems to be quite accurate"
(Ed: You'll find you get quicker and quicker as you use the programme Marolyn - but anything worthwhile takes time to achieve)

From Michael (18/1/07): Having quite a bit of success

From LucyMay (15/1/07): Excellent. Very good service

From Francis (15/1/07): I have purchased your greyhound gold. Great product

From "Barcoosalute" (14/1/07): Very quick delivery and was successful winning 1st attempt, well done thank you

From Bill (12/1/07): Excellent service and product highly recommended AAAAA

From Geoff (12/1/07): Item arrived completely as described-hope I can do well with it!

From Ian of Mandurah (11/1/07): This has exceeded my expectations. At last - an honest adviser.

From David (10/1/07): Extremely prompt service. highly recommended

From "amigo" (10/1/07): Item received promptly. Looks promising.

From Sandi (4/1/07): Thank you for your kind service, very happy, was a pleasure

From Rhys of Brisbane: (4/1/07) I play the boxes a bit at the dogs often, and while I tend not to use much of other people's systems in making final selections, the box numbers in Aussie Greyhound Gold have proven quite useful to me already.

From Francis (2/1/07): Great Product have tried it and it works. Thanks

From Francis (2/1/07): Better than another system and less expense Thanks

From Peter of Nowra: (2/1/07) Great start to the year thanks to your programme. I was doubtful at first until I got my head around the class aspect - thanks for your email responses and assistance. Truly delighted.
(Ed: Glad to be of assistance Peter. Now - easy does it - don't get impulsive - good grief I am boringly conservative, aren't I?)

From Tony of Warrnambool: (30/12/06): Hi. I really appreciate the time you take to put up greyhound systems as well as the other codes as we often get forgotten about. That's all.

From Todd: (28/12/06): Awesome product, saved me a ton of legwork

From John of Marmion, W.A.: (28/12/06): Next day delivery (fastest ever)- thanks for that and good punting!

From Liz & David of Waverley: (26/12/06): Hello there. This is merely a quick note to thank you for all the free systems you have on this site. They are great and food for thought.
(Ed: Pleasure. Hope they start you at least thinking about positive ways to look at form guides and eliminate some of the losers.)

From Justin of Glenelg (23/12/06): Hi there. Just wanted to let you know he first day I operated mySelf Rate program I scored a trifecta that paid nearly $400. Wow. How long has this been going on?
(Ed: Good news Justin but don't get too carried away - remember: patience, perseverance and discipline - stay focused on that class section. One swallow does not a summer make! Caution at all times)

From Sandi of NSW (20/12/06): Hi Peter. Thank you for quick postage, I am sure my man will be very happy when he receives it

From Laurie of Rockhampton (18/12/06): Programme arrived this morning and I installed it immediately. I am moved to say that this is way more professional than anything I expected. Congratulations. I will let you know how I go. Have a good Christmas.
(Ed: You have a good Xmas too Laurie - hope Santa brings you a winner or three)

From Alan of Nowra (16/12/06): You have obviously put a lot of time and effort in to this site with some really useful stuff. Thanks

From Sonya of Hobart (16/12/06): I think you should put more systems for greyhounds on this web. Other than that, it is okay.

From Raymond: (7/12/06): Fast delivery,securely packaged,pleasure to deal with,thanks ray.

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From Glyn (18/11/06): good product fast delivery would deal againFrom Weights (15/11/06): thank you .... awesome

From Peter (4/11/06): Won $430 1st day excellent thank uFrom Steven M (27/10/06): Fantastic!. Just what I was looking for

From Rennie (27/09/06): Goods received. Very easy to deal with. No problems at all

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From Rob G (30/8/06): Great program,easy to operate.Will enjoy. Recommended

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